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El Latino
05-23-2005, 11:15 PM
Hawk and I were discussing the use of the shaker scoop with a blower setup and he made a very good point about the filtration between the scoop and the blower. Due to the high RPMs of the blower, the smallest of debris would damage the unit.

I scanned the picture below from 5.0 magazine 2005 June edition. Where the hell is the filter on this setup?

http://members.cox.net/ellatino3/fnctnl.jpg

1WICKEDmach
05-23-2005, 11:37 PM
There is probably a pannel filter in the shaker.

fstltlfkr
05-24-2005, 12:35 AM
There ain't no filter, my buddy has the same set-up. no filter! Now I am sure you could make some type of filter and put in the piece going into the front of the shaker, but it would more than likely restrict the air flow again, my .o2!

fstltlfkr
05-24-2005, 12:38 AM
But again now, we are looking at a Boss Shinoda set-up, and the shaker looks a little different than the mach 1 set up, look at the rubber piece on the bottom appears to be thicker and the shaker itself looks as tho it is a single piece, not a bolted together 2 stepper like ours.

fstltlfkr
05-24-2005, 12:39 AM
Also look at the placement of the MAF! :beer:
On ours the MAF would be down in the Fender weld

mhazelwd
05-24-2005, 03:51 AM
Looks like a turbo instead of a blower :confused: but it does look like there is room for a filter under the shaker , and :iagree: the MAF placement supports that conclusion. Pretty nifty setup I say. :thumbs:

carmickle
05-24-2005, 05:36 AM
I would say the filter is in the Shaker too...but the tube says Vortech, does Vortech make a Turbo?

HotRod
05-24-2005, 09:05 AM
Are you guys kiddin' me? Thats a Vortech V-2 blower! Noone has ever seen a Vortech on a Cobra or Mach?? Here ya go! :thumbs:

http://www.mach1registry.org/photopost/data/500/713Vortech3.JPG

http://www.mach1registry.org/photopost/data/500/713Vortech2.JPG

QuickyDSG
05-24-2005, 09:32 AM
That looks like the CDC shaker. The setup looks excessive, and I really dont like that "FAKE" shaker. Yeah it works, but it's still not a Mach.

2k4mk1
05-24-2005, 10:49 AM
Shaker or not at all

nitemare
05-24-2005, 11:50 AM
Hawk and I were discussing the use of the shaker scoop with a blower setup and he made a very good point about the filtration between the scoop and the blower. Due to the high RPMs of the blower, the smallest of debris would damage the unit.

I scanned the picture below from 5.0 magazine 2005 June edition. Where the hell is the filter on this setup?

http://members.cox.net/ellatino3/fnctnl.jpg

the shaker in this pic is the CDC shaker on a 2V GT using a votech blower and No Lee vortech does not make a turbo. CDC makes and adaptor that works with their shaker system to keep the shaker functional for use with a blower(super charger). It puts an air filter right after the shaker opening to the maf. go to http://www.classicdesignconcepts.com/catalog/itemdisplay/566.html or here http://www.classicdesignconcepts.com/tech_center/supercharger_adapter.html

HotRod
05-24-2005, 12:06 PM
That looks like the CDC shaker. The setup looks excessive, and I really dont like that "FAKE" shaker. Yeah it works, but it's still not a Mach.

Shaker or not at all

As Im hitting 545hp, the last thing on my mind is a non functional shaker! :shft Bye guys! :spinem:

2003_shaker
05-24-2005, 12:35 PM
That's a SOHC engine, isn't it?

El Latino
05-24-2005, 09:34 PM
That's a SOHC engine, isn't it?

Yes, a SOHC, with a CDC shaker setup and Nightmare is right, the filter is in the unit between the shaker and the MAF. Now to figure out a setup that will work with our REAL shaker...

mhazelwd
05-24-2005, 09:37 PM
Wonder how this shaker manages heavy rain ?

2003_shaker
05-25-2005, 06:35 AM
Wonder how this shaker manages heavy rain ?

I'd be interested to see the shape and location of the outlet under the shaker. . .

How does the oem version do it? The air outlet is actually at the front and i think there's a drain at the rear.

DTMach1
05-25-2005, 06:48 AM
I'd be interested to see the shape and location of the outlet under the shaker. . .

How does the oem version do it? The air outlet is actually at the front and i think there's a drain at the rear.

ours has two drains, both in the front. One is on the rubber "lip" of the shaker and is visible with the hood down(the washer you see on forward portion of the shaker lip on the driver's side). Then there is one more on the shaker assy. in the same location, the foward portion. If you open your hood you'll see two drain lines coming from the same location.

2003_shaker
05-25-2005, 07:49 AM
ours has two drains, both in the front. One is on the rubber "lip" of the shaker and is visible with the hood down(the washer you see on forward portion of the shaker lip on the driver's side). Then there is one more on the shaker assy. in the same location, the foward portion. If you open your hood you'll see two drain lines coming from the same location.

Does water collect inside the rear of the shaker?

DTMach1
05-28-2005, 08:05 AM
Does water collect inside the rear of the shaker?

It may, but I would have to assume that everytime you stop or cause the nose of the car to go forward that the water would go out the fwd drain.

R03Mach
05-28-2005, 07:47 PM
Wonder how this shaker manages heavy rain ?

Good question. That shaker "sucks", stock Machs' shakers just "catch" :) :hehe:

El Latino
05-30-2005, 10:10 AM
Good question. That shaker "sucks", stock Machs' shakers just "catch" :) :hehe:

That shaker does suck. Hazelwood made a good point though. If our shaker, the water may sit and eventually drain out, but, if the blower is taking in air from the shaker, it would most likely be sucking in the water as well.

A K&N flat pan filter can be refabbed to fit in the piece between the shaker and the MAF and it would catch most of the water. I'm thinking the water that manages to get through the filter may evaporate before it reaches the blower, considering the velocity which it is traveling in. Only thing is that the filter may require much more frequent cleaning.

NorCalMach
05-31-2005, 02:05 PM
XMP custom fabricated a functional shaker scoop blower combination. Used our existing shaker scoop and modified it to feed a Novi 2000 with intercooler. Very trick. Do a search on here or the registry and you can see the write up of the guy that did it. Quite long actually with some good pics. Or go to www.x-m-p.com and I'm sure they can hook you up with all of the details you need.

MM
05-31-2005, 04:59 PM
uhhh.... fyi k&n filters are rendered total useless once they get wet. thats why ford can void for use then

NorCalMach
05-31-2005, 05:52 PM
That's why you don't drive something like this in the rain.

Mvcrash
06-02-2005, 06:57 AM
Years ago, we used to use water injection to cool the air charge into an engine from a turbo, blower of even N/A cars. A little water vapor in the charge won't hurt anything, it just helps keep the air charge cool. (ask florida boys about humidity)
I'm not saying buckets of water here, just a small amount of mist that would be turned into a vapor by the blower.

HotRod
06-03-2005, 04:54 AM
That is a fact! :thumbs: