Suggestions Improvements Comments Ideas for next years Mach 1 Roundup

[351c.i.d]

Ok guys/gals, lets get down to biz on this one.

While we had a great time this year in Vegas, we certainly hit some snags. We handed out feedback forms to everyone at registration and while we got some of them back, most didn't get back to us.
So now, this is the time to let us know what you think!!! We want to make next year's bigger and better then this year and we need help from EVERYONE!!!!!!
Don't be shy, go ahead and tell us what you thought, but please try to be constructive with it ok? If you think that the funky lil' tomatoes with the green beans stuffed in 'em at the welcome dinner sucked...tell me why and what we can do to fix them. Know what I mean?

Let's get the ideas flowing...everything from locations, dinners/breakfast/events/prizes/schedules, you name it. Who would you like to see/sponsorships/prices let's throw 'em all out there. If you think you can help, let us know. We can only do so much over the phone, and those that were in Vegas already really helped a bunch. If you have contacts, let us know! We're open to everything and anything, but remember, if we don't know it's broke, we can't fix it!

Let's get rollin' :spinem: :web:

[carmickle]

Well, I suggest that we keep it on the West coast for 1 more year... :hehe:
Since I will be returning to Cali after I get out of the military in May.

What are the possible sites for the convention for next year? Just curious...

We should look at places like Richmond, maybe Florida even, how about Colorado Springs, CO?

[99whitecobra99]

I got one, Send me some money so I can go next time. :hehe: :beer: Glad everything went well for you guys over there. :thumbs:

[mach1of03]

My ideas. First no matter where it is held some will have to drive a distance to get there and that will make some unhappy. the only thing to do about that is keep moving it around to keep as few unhappy as you can each year. Second i think there should be a pre-registeration fee to help pay for some of the unforseen costs that always pop up. in my opinion it should be non-refundable. I know that this would keep people from registering untill the last but if you have to stard refunding fees you have a big mess. being from iowa i plan on driving no matter where it is held as there is not much to see here but the corn growing. i think it should be held a little more towards summer when more people have vacation time and school is not in session. these are my views and i approve them.

[bad8511]

I totally agree with having a registration fee. Alot of snags this year were due to mainly people not showing up. If they pay up front that may change their mind about getting up at the crack of dawn and participating.

The only recommendation I have is about the food. I am not complaining about the price but I will about the selection. The selection did not match the price. I don't usually eat breakfast, but I don't think it costs $18 for cereal,fruit and a bagel. I know the price went up because alot of peolple did not show up and that's why I feel the registration fee could have covered some of that instead of the die hard members that were there.

I had a wonderful time and really hope that I can make it next year. I learned alot from Tach's seminar and the friendships will last forever (I hope). Thanks again to all who made this possible. Mach on---Bad

[rsnider]

How about door hangars to identify Mach 1 rooms? If we think long enough I'm sure we can come up with something simple and cheap that can be hung on the door without wigging out the management? It would be cool if we had some way of printing our internet name on them. We could always just write it on with a marker.

Are there any items that dealership service areas use that have a blue oval on them ie. paper floor mats, plastic seat covers, etc.

[rsnider]

If I'd been more of a Techie I could have found Tach9's frequency. I got the channel 9 thing, that's easy, but sub channel 11 threw me. My hand held radios have the capability but I didn't!

These little hand held radio's are relatively inexpensive ($50 for two) and have a range of 2-6 miles. Sodbuster and I used them on the trip to Vegas and they are REALLY handy.

Wherever we go next year the chances of traffic being as bad as what we had in Vegas is little to none, but the more of us that have radios the better it will be.

Letting everyone know before the convention what frequency to use will help keep us in touch.

[tach9]

I totally agree with having a registration fee. Alot of snags this year were due to mainly people not showing up. If they pay up front that may change their mind about getting up at the crack of dawn and participating.

The only recommendation I have is about the food. I am not complaining about the price but I will about the selection. The selection did not match the price. I don't usually eat breakfast, but I don't think it costs $18 for cereal,fruit and a bagel. I know the price went up because alot of peolple did not show up and that's why I feel the registration fee could have covered some of that instead of the die hard members that were there.

I had a wonderful time and really hope that I can make it next year. I learned alot from Tach's seminar and the friendships will last forever (I hope). Thanks again to all who made this possible. Mach on---Bad


Hey 851...totally agree with you...It certainly would have been a bit different had more attended, but we got what we got and participants like yourself made teh event a great one!!! Thanks for coming and participating!!! i think we all got out of the event what we put in :D The best part was meeting all...and yes i hope those friendships last forever as well!!!

Yup next year will definately be different, it is already deep in the planning stages.... :D

[DTMach1]

I gave you guys a heads-up months in advance that I wasn't going to be able to attend.

Also, in retrospect, while vegas is awesome, it is also very very expensive just to eat there. You should try to find a spot that's fun, with many things to do, but not so pricey. Of course that would be the hardest part ;)

[tach9]

I gave you guys a heads-up months in advance that I wasn't going to be able to attend.

Also, in retrospect, while vegas is awesome, it is also very very expensive just to eat there. You should try to find a spot that's fun, with many things to do, but not so pricey. Of course that would be the hardest part ;)

Hey DT..yes you did and it was appreciated!!! Thanks!!!

The problem with costs in Vegas wasn't really about the prices...it was very difficult to secure a place where all of us together could dine etc. That is part of the experience etc....but also part of the costing problem. Believe me...we chose the least costly of the prices...

No worries...things will be much different next year :D

[rsnider]

Hey DT..yes you did and it was appreciated!!! Thanks!!!

The problem with costs in Vegas wasn't really about the prices...it was very difficult to secure a place where all of us together could dine etc. That is part of the experience etc....but also part of the costing problem. Believe me...we chose the least costly of the prices...

No worries...things will be much different next year :D

Unless you choose someplace like "New York City" rooms, meals, moving from place to place, etc. should be much easier to schedule/book. You chose probably the most difficult city in the continental U.S. for the first convention, and you still did an outstanding job!

[manny1234]

Have it dead center in The US

[Hawk]

Well, that would be cool from the standpoint of fairness in drive times, but maybe TotoLand can shed some light on all the activities that aren't there to do....

Disclaimer: I was born and partially raised in SE Kansas, so I ain't pokin at anyone....

[351c.i.d]

Great suggestions guys, please keep them coming.
Miguel I hear you about the cost of breakfast, we'll be sure to fix that next time around.
The cities we're looking at for next year are
1. Atlanta
2. Chicago
3. Nashville

These are just ideas, but we have some contacts/ideas for that area that might add something to next years convention.

Keep the ideas flowing please!!!!!!!!

[DTMach1]

I vote richmond

[351c.i.d]

lol yeah that's central for sure

[DTMach1]

central VA! heh heh

[351c.i.d]

You guys are right about the registration fee, that will most certainly be in effect for next year.

More ideas more ideas!

[Totoland Mach]

Well, that would be cool from the standpoint of fairness in drive times, but maybe TotoLand can shed some light on all the activities that aren't there to do....

Disclaimer: I was born and partially raised in SE Kansas, so I ain't pokin at anyone....

Hey-Hey-Hey...we've got lot's to do...watch tornado's! Seriously, with the new NASCAR speedway here, there's a lot going on. Better yet is the Heartland Park in Topeka (site of an NHRA National) where a lot of clubs have a driving day on the road course and/or drag option. There's also a mini 6 Flags park (Worlds of Fun), several casino's, and decent roads. Overall, if I had to pick a midwest spot, it would be at a nice hotel in Lake of the Ozarks area. Absolutely scenic for a road rally, beautiful lake with all the water stuff, low cost and pretty central.

Another thing to consider is a discount pre-registration and a day-of-event higher registration.

[speed5]

I live an hour and a half from Chicago but I would vote for Nashville. That way the wife would want to go which means I get to go.

[351c.i.d]

Hey-Hey-Hey...we've got lot's to do...watch tornado's! Seriously, with the new NASCAR speedway here, there's a lot going on. Better yet is the Heartland Park in Topeka (site of an NHRA National) where a lot of clubs have a driving day on the road course and/or drag option. There's also a mini 6 Flags park (Worlds of Fun), several casino's, and decent roads. Overall, if I had to pick a midwest spot, it would be at a nice hotel in Lake of the Ozarks area. Absolutely scenic for a road rally, beautiful lake with all the water stuff, low cost and pretty central.

Another thing to consider is a discount pre-registration and a day-of-event higher registration.

Totoland I like that idea about the registration costs. Good one :thumbs:

[Mach 1 Mania]

Anywhere in the midwest will get lots of folks...STL would be perfect

[ImShakn]

Richmond is pretty cool. We could spend a day driving down the scenic Blue Ridge Parkway, spend some time at Richmond International Raceway, go to G-Force Karts for some go-kart racing, spend a day at Virginia Motorsports Park for drag racing, and spend another day at Virginia International Raceway for road racing. There is a lot around here (history and motorsports) and I would be more than happy to help with any arrangements in the area.

On the other hand, a post on the registry mentioned Indy. I think that would be pretty cool, too.

[labels2]

Midwest, seems fair to both coast, only a couple days drive from each side...

[DTMach1]

Richmond is pretty cool. We could spend a day driving down the scenic Blue Ridge Parkway, spend some time at Richmond International Raceway, go to G-Force Karts for some go-kart racing, spend a day at Virginia Motorsports Park for drag racing, and spend another day at Virginia International Raceway for road racing. There is a lot around here (history and motorsports) and I would be more than happy to help with any arrangements in the area.

On the other hand, a post on the registry mentioned Indy. I think that would be pretty cool, too.

:thumbs:

[351c.i.d]

Midwest, seems fair to both coast, only a couple days drive from each side...

I agree Jim. :thumbs:
More ideas more more more!

[DTMach1]

well, to be dead honest, Nashville is probably the best Idea. Thus far. Or we could do something in the detroit area?

[Totoland Mach]

Another possibility would be the Dallas/Ft. Worth area. Get a big sponsor like Dallas Mustang, plus the Texas Motorsports Park, plus tons of Mustangs in the Dallas area...

Pretty good drive for most (except the D/FW folks), but lots to do there.

[ImShakn]

I'm pulling for Indy...I've always wanted to see the Brickyard (Even if nobody's racing).

Most Nascar teams are in Mooresville, North Carolina. We could stay in Charlotte, visit some race shops, go drag racing in Mooresville...

I kinda have a racing theme going here. It would be cool to see some pro racer shops, invite a driver or two (if the price was not too high), maybe get some driving tips.

[Lonestar 7]

How about Dallas or San Antonio or New Orleans

[ImShakn]

Another possibility would be the Dallas/Ft. Worth area. Get a big sponsor like Dallas Mustang, plus the Texas Motorsports Park, plus tons of Mustangs in the Dallas area...

Pretty good drive for most (except the D/FW folks), but lots to do there.
I like this one also. I don't know that I would want to do this one in the middle of the summer, but the location is in the middle of the country and there is a lot to do in the area.

[carmickle]

I'm not hip about TX, but DFW would be a good area to have it. I think we should look into CO, there is a lot to see and some awesome areas to drive to...

[rsnider]

From the wife... who has lots of experience at national conventions.

1. Require a registration fee. Prepay for individual events chosen from a list, or a % of the cost with balance due.

2. Name tags. We felt bad that we kept forgetting everyone's names! (Old and senile I guess). Also, if each participant could print something in large letters to be placed on their dash, it would be easier to place vehicles with names. Since so many of our discussions revolve around what we have done to our Machs it' important to be able to put the two together.

3. The itinerary was a great idea on the back of the tag... but don't make the background so dark. It was difficult for us ol' folk to read.

4. Also, make it clear ahead of time if you need to be present to win the raffle? I think we all assumed that for the tires you need not be, but in the future it could be a sticky wicket.

5. Keep the weather at next years destination a factor of choosing the dates. July in Chicago could be nice... July in Dallas could be brutal!

6. Begin a file of notes for each area of the convention that can be used when planning gets underway. Do not rely on memory to recall ideas you may have had six months ago.

[Jonesy]

well, to be dead honest, Nashville is probably the best Idea. Thus far. Or we could do something in the detroit area? :bna I like that Detriot idea. Now, I know some you are probably not Nascar Fans, but I go to MIS (Brooklyn MI.about 40 miles from Detroit) every June. During the pre-race show they always seem to have a group of a certain trucks or cars parade around the track, I think 75-100 Mach1's going around the 2 mile oval would be spectacular. :D There ought to be enough things to do in Detroit also. Tour Ford etc.
Pre paid registration is a must. I'm paying for next years Nascar tickets now. so yes, advanced payment should be required.
Another idea would be to move a little East each year, work your way across the country. :)

[Mach 1 Mania]

St louis has World ford challenge...its a blast

[Hawk]

I had a thought based on rsnider's comments: For prepaid participants, get magnetic signs about 1.5" X 8" with names on them that go on the door below the window, like a fighter pilot -

e.g. John "Hawkpilot" Meyer

That might help to keep everybody connected...

[ImShakn]

I had a thought based on rsnider's comments: For prepaid participants, get magnetic signs about 1.5" X 8" with names on them that go on the door below the window, like a fighter pilot -

e.g. John "Hawkpilot" Meyer

That might help to keep everybody connected...
Maybe a name placard to place on the dash/windshield/back window, but no magnets. Too much risk of scratching the paint.

[labels2]

remember to see what other events are going on all over , as not to end up with a lot of competion near the same week.

[351c.i.d]

From the wife... who has lots of experience at national conventions.

1. Require a registration fee. Prepay for individual events chosen from a list, or a % of the cost with balance due.

2. Name tags. We felt bad that we kept forgetting everyone's names! (Old and senile I guess). Also, if each participant could print something in large letters to be placed on their dash, it would be easier to place vehicles with names. Since so many of our discussions revolve around what we have done to our Machs it' important to be able to put the two together.

3. The itinerary was a great idea on the back of the tag... but don't make the background so dark. It was difficult for us ol' folk to read.

4. Also, make it clear ahead of time if you need to be present to win the raffle? I think we all assumed that for the tires you need not be, but in the future it could be a sticky wicket.

5. Keep the weather at next years destination a factor of choosing the dates. July in Chicago could be nice... July in Dallas could be brutal!

6. Begin a file of notes for each area of the convention that can be used when planning gets underway. Do not rely on memory to recall ideas you may have had six months ago.

Great ideas. A couple of things.

The I.D's we handed out were the name tags..lol. That's why we left a little space at the top/bottom to write your name. Next year we'll be sure to leave a little bit more space and emphasize that they are the name tags.

You didn't have to be present to win the tires. There were tons of people who bought a ticket for the raffle and couldn't come, and their tickets were put in the group along with everyone elses. Maybe we could come up with some raffles for those at the convention and those that can't attend. The person who won this year just happened to be in attendance (and bought a lot of tickets too)

Great advice on the notes, we'll be sure to do that. This year things got a bit hectic at the end because Sakura and I had to takeover a few things from Aaron because of his heart attack. We'll be sure to sit down and break down responsibility for each event so things are much smoother.

This is great guys, I love the input. Rest assured we're taking it all in. :thumbs:

[stevessaddlegrl]

WOW guys. sorry so late to jump in but i passed out last night when steven posted this and i had to get up for ROTC at 0500.

first of all, i appreciate all the comments and suggestions!!! :thumbs: keep them coming!!

second, location is very important as i'm sure you all know. we want to keep things fair for driving purposes but in the end i'm sure there will be at least one unhappy camper. me personally, i would like it central, however we all need to look at what is available in the area. is there a track? is there a road course? are the accomodations? etc...

third, i agree with the pre-registration: a non-refundable fee of $xx and a higher late fee. this way, we can say right off what our budget is and it will be used as an indicator of what we can and can't do money-wise.

now looking at it from a business stand point--and i'm a business major--we have some things we need to look at. for example, can we get the participation we want; how many machs can we successfully handle without stressing? who will be willing to sponsor us to help with cost--i.e. maximum motorsports helped some. can we get more sponsors and who should be choose? any ideas? i thought companies such as mm, toyo, the org, and of course ford.

those are just a few questions. but please know that i am gathering as much info from you all for a continuity binder. it will hold prices from this year, contacts, pictures, and of course the lovely feedback you are all giving us. so, rest assured that everything is being documented so that we know what to fix and what to keep from this year. :thumbs:

[Hawk]

Maybe a name placard to place on the dash/windshield/back window, but no magnets. Too much risk of scratching the paint.

hmm. I didn't think it would scratch the paint, as long as you weren't dragging it around. But I must concede my ignorance on the effects of magnetic sign use. :)

[stevessaddlegrl]

hm...i guess it's time to ask the pizza delivery people....or at least look at their hondas....ever notice how the bulk of them drive hondas????

[MrsGrackle]

I think the DFW would be a good location...I would even be willing to open my home and have a BBQ...but July it would be hot...Michigan is also a good idea...I grew up in Jackson and MIS is an awesome place to visit...let me know if I can help with anything I'm willing to pitch in...maybe if enough people pre-register once you decided where the next convention will be held...others can pitch in too...that way it's not all on Tach9 and 351c.i.d shoulders... ;)

[heathdude]

I forgot to turn mine in :(

I was hoping that you would do a "lessons learned" thread of some sort.

Many of the suggestions are what I had written down for inputs. The biggest is paid preregistration. This caused major problem throughout the events and caused much pain for the convention staff. Many of the people that attended helped offset the costs, but I'm sure that alot came out of the staff pocket.

Sponsorship would be so cool, the MM catalog made for fantastic reading during those "personal" times and help with costs and neat toys.

As for location, somewhere in the middle would be great for our eastern Machers. I would have no problem with a couple day drive to get there. Heck, getting there is half the fun. Weather would play a factor, so I don't know how to play that.

Name tags would also be helpful. I put a piece of paper on the bottom of mine with my name, but you had to be pretty close to read it. I'm so horrible with names to start with and my misspent youth killed ones off that gave a damn. But I did place faces with cars, so the dash plaque idea would be wonderful.

The rooms at the Alexis were very nice, but it would have been nicer to have us all in one block. I know that's what you had intended at the start, so it's just something to keep in mind. Can you imagine a whole floor of us nut cases?

The go-carts were definatly a hit (no pun intended) with me, I never had so much funa and I still hurt. A few non-Mach related activities to keep our passengers conscience are a must, my sidekick was getting edgy talking about cars all the time. Although, for the life of me, I can't see why. :D

I had a great time and there was bound to be hiccups, but it didn't dampen the enthusiasm of the attendees. It just goes to show what a few crazies with an idea can do. Mucho thanks!!!!

[labels2]

i ordered some wheel spacers from MM and mentioned i had a good time and thanked them for thier part in the roundup...hopefully they will do it again next year...........so if you order parts from them mention it, cant hurt :hehe:

[rsnider]

I went to their catalog ready to order a carrier, axles and gears... but they don't supply rear end parts. Oh well, I tried.

[tach9]

I forgot to turn mine in :(

I was hoping that you would do a "lessons learned" thread of some sort.

Many of the suggestions are what I had written down for inputs. The biggest is paid preregistration. This caused major problem throughout the events and caused much pain for the convention staff. Many of the people that attended helped offset the costs, but I'm sure that alot came out of the staff pocket.

Sponsorship would be so cool, the MM catalog made for fantastic reading during those "personal" times and help with costs and neat toys.

As for location, somewhere in the middle would be great for our eastern Machers. I would have no problem with a couple day drive to get there. Heck, getting there is half the fun. Weather would play a factor, so I don't know how to play that.

Name tags would also be helpful. I put a piece of paper on the bottom of mine with my name, but you had to be pretty close to read it. I'm so horrible with names to start with and my misspent youth killed ones off that gave a damn. But I did place faces with cars, so the dash plaque idea would be wonderful.

The rooms at the Alexis were very nice, but it would have been nicer to have us all in one block. I know that's what you had intended at the start, so it's just something to keep in mind. Can you imagine a whole floor of us nut cases?

The go-carts were definatly a hit (no pun intended) with me, I never had so much funa and I still hurt. A few non-Mach related activities to keep our passengers conscience are a must, my sidekick was getting edgy talking about cars all the time. Although, for the life of me, I can't see why. :D

I had a great time and there was bound to be hiccups, but it didn't dampen the enthusiasm of the attendees. It just goes to show what a few crazies with an idea can do. Mucho thanks!!!!

Heathdude, Thanks...you are right on the mark!!! A lot that was intended couldn't happen, one cause my heart decided to have some problems at the wrong time, but more of an influence was the cost. Yeah, the intention was to have all us Mach's staying at the same hotel in a single block. We had already arranged special "together" parking etc. but well ya know the story...We really appreciated the "extra" contributions and am very grateful for your generosity...Thank you!!!

What folks also have to understand in the grand scheme of things...that amenities cost $'s... Also remember that timing is a critical issue...meaning what time of the year. Vegas was easy cause October is the best month as we all experienced. If we end up back east or to other parts ...weather plays an important factor. That means the 2nd Convention may have to move up a month or so depending upon location. Can yo imagine if the First Convention was in Florida this year..Yikes!!! There are a lot of factors being addressed to make the 2nd Convention as more fun than the First one was!!!!

The 2nd Annual Mach 1 Roundup will not suffer from the same problems....there will be pre-paid non-refundable registration...and that will also cover any $ costing activities that the participants want to join. That is the biggest issue, and one that unfortunately, was a bit out of my control at the time. It won't happen again!!! We did learn a couple of really kewl things though...like how well the Drag Racing, Shelby Tour and the Kart Racing came off!!!! So for the 2nd, you can expect a night of Drag Racing and Kart Racing too!!! I would so like to have a Road Race course available as well. many Mach owners have not experienced that yet, but I guarantee that when they do...it'll be a thrill of a lifetime!!! Yes also there will be some non-Mach related activities planned for our S.O. or drive along friends who may not be as enthusiastic about the Mach as we are too....

There are a lot of places with some historic an kewl tours available...Roush Plant etc.... I do have a couple of Rabbits up my sleeve on these types of activities..so stay tuned....

Thanks for your input, it is constructive and helpful in the planning stages for next year...you da man :allhail:

[tach9]

i ordered some wheel spacers from MM and mentioned i had a good time and thanked them for thier part in the roundup...hopefully they will do it again next year...........so if you order parts from them mention it, cant hurt :hehe:


Kewl!!! but it would have been even better to order your MM stuff through me :D

[C.W.]

i like the richmond idea, but will go for indy as well. i guess the whole time is like a car show, so... how about some detailing time in the morning, just take over a local car wash and trade cleaning tips or something.
c-dub

[shaker3]

being at the bottom of the country its a drive no matter where I go and it was a pleasure to have met all those who showed up and shared a few drinks with. I agree about the Alexis,the room was nice but I have to say this..THE BED SUCKED THE BIG SEQUIOA'S!!!..ok much better now..looking forward to Mach 1 Con # 2. :beer:

[stevessaddlegrl]

cool...keep the comments coming!!! it's great how people are agreeing on things and seeing things in the same light. i'm already so excited about next year!!!! i can only imagine what color panties dave will be distributing and what perfume will be on them....

[ImShakn]

i like the richmond idea, but will go for indy as well. i guess the whole time is like a car show, so... how about some detailing time in the morning, just take over a local car wash and trade cleaning tips or something.
c-dub
Did I mention that we have Kings Dominion, Busch Gardens, and Water Country USA? We have tons of stuff that doesn't have anything to do with Mustangs or motorsports.

I don't know exactly what you guys did in Vegas, but maybe we could do a couple of seminars. Something about detailing and prepping for a car show, prepping for the drag strip...we have members with a lot of knowledge that we can organize and share

[stevessaddlegrl]

i personally would love to have more seminars. i mean, there's so much to learn from everyone on the org. it would be nice to hear what people would like to learn about and what they would be interested in doing.

for example, i would like seminars, drag racing, a road course, and some fun events mixed in. you know?

so please, give us ideas on what you all would like out of the convention....

[DTMach1]

about drag racing seminar...

I seem to remember the last time Greg organized a mach-1 day at GLD he had Jeff Schmell or someone teach a bunch of the new guys some drag racing technique before everyone started racing.

That would be sweet!

I know everytime I go racing with someone that hasn't been before(not that I'm the experienced track maven I come off to be sometimes) I just give them a handle on the basics...like the burnout box, the tree, what to do incase of emergency, the exit points, the timeslip booth, the pits and the staging areas. But since my experience is limited (32 passes thus far) I know someone with a lot of experience would help out immensely.

[labels2]

if you drive across country for a car event, :)
do you want to use the time to go to a water slide ?? :(

[DTMach1]

if you drive across country for a car event, :)
do you want to use the time to go to a water slide ?? :(

maybe:hehe:

ohhh at the waterpark...I was thinking something different...;)

Hey, if Bon Jovi can make an album called "slippery when wet" I can make crude inuendos...

[tach9]

if you drive across country for a car event, :)
do you want to use the time to go to a water slide ?? :(

Well...I see your point...you are fortunate that Bonnie sees "eye to eye" with you on that :D Not everyone's S.O. feels the same way...and some can "get permission to go" easier if there are a couple of activities that would allow the S.O. something other than gas fumes and burnt rubber ;) Although I can't understand why ...LOL..!!!!

[Berzerk]

2. Name tags. We felt bad that we kept forgetting everyone's names! (Old and senile I guess). Also, if each participant could print something in large letters to be placed on their dash, it would be easier to place vehicles with names. Since so many of our discussions revolve around what we have done to our Machs it' important to be able to put the two together.

I agree, names tags would be great. Have out name on the ORG with our real name under it. Also, a registration fee is a good idea, a lot of people might not like it, but it will definatly makes sure that people show up first of all and that things go a little more smoothly from what I understand.

It may have been said before, but I would really, HEAVILY reccomend that is be held in the summer time while schools (high schools and college) are out. I say this b/c college, you can't afford to miss 3 days in a row let alone a week or something like that. Also, summer time will allow people who live for example, on the east coast, they can make it to the west coast by leaving early and not miss extra classes or anything like that, it will also allow you to make it more safely and with fewer speeding tickets..... :hehe: :shft

I regret not being able to make it but for me to have made it would of meant missing too many classes. Lastly, I know it was said, but move it around. New city all the time, different state too even. But a neat little thing you could do is after the 10th one, meat back in Vegas and see how many more cars have come out over the years
Wish I could of made it though..... :thud:

[ImShakn]

Well...I see your point...you are fortunate that Bonnie sees "eye to eye" with you on that :D Not everyone's S.O. feels the same way...and some can "get permission to go" easier if there are a couple of activities that would allow the S.O. something other than gas fumes and burnt rubber ;) Although I can't understand why ...LOL..!!!!
This is what I have to make sure. My wife would enjoy a scenic cruise, but would get bored to tears within the first hour at the dragstrip. We also have members that do not want to race their Machs at all and would like alternative activities.

[mach1of03]

Just another point to think about. As i was not at the las vegas convention i don`t know if there were any kids present but i`m sure some of the older members have kids and if they bring them along there should be a thing or two for the kids to do. Mine are grown and on their own so it does not make any difference to me but thought i would bring it up. i`m mach1of03 and i approve this message.

[Grackle]

:bna I like that Detriot idea. Now, I know some you are probably not Nascar Fans, but I go to MIS (Brooklyn MI.about 40 miles from Detroit) every June. During the pre-race show they always seem to have a group of a certain trucks or cars parade around the track, I think 75-100 Mach1's going around the 2 mile oval would be spectacular. :D There ought to be enough things to do in Detroit also. Tour Ford etc.
Pre paid registration is a must. I'm paying for next years Nascar tickets now. so yes, advanced payment should be required.
Another idea would be to move a little East each year, work your way across the country. :)

Sponsors....maybe MRT and possibly Paul's High Performance would help sponsor a convention in Michigan

[rsnider]

I am lucky in that I can get off work almost any time except the first week of school (2nd week of August). But if we are thinking of having the Round Up in the summer, PLEASE think about having it somewhere north to avoid the heat and humidity.

In addition, if I drive twenty hours to get to the Round Up it would be nice if it didn't end so soon. Would it be possible to have some low-key gatherings before the big weekend? Then have the "Main Event" stuff over the weekend when the majority of the group can attend.

Even though I was fighting some kind of bug, I believe the group as a whole could have used some "down time". Unfortunately I had to miss the Shelby tour in order to get my stomach out of my throat and back where it belongs. But even had I been feeling good, out till' 2am and back up at 7am with a FULL day of activities and another late night ahead was a bit much for this old fart.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not take anything I've said in the wrong way! I had a great time this year and in no way wish to slam anyone about anything.
I don't know how Steve, Aaron, Sakura and Desiree kept going? They were amazing! I'm sure they could have used a few hours rest along about 3pm on Saturday.

[heathdude]

Mandatory nap time sounds like a winner to me. I know I was run pretty ragged, but then I'm a glutton for punishment. :D

[farmboy]

When tach 9 first started the ideal of a convention it was in responce to the National at Nashville for the ones that were unable to attend because of the distance. I feel that if the National is East of the Mississippi then the convention should just be West of the Mississippi. The rumor is that the National may be in Nashville again.

Pre registration is normal for all shows. Discount cost if pre registered and cancellation and refund up till month before the meet. We all know things come up.

Sounds like totoland may have some good suggestions in his area. Hey where is Kansas anyway? Will we need pass ports?

One thing that may help is to get the local Mustang Club in the area chosen to help. Yes it is a Mach 1 meet but who would ever stop another Mustang from showing up. Then also to post the meet on MCA calendar.

Name tags printed with the log on name and a place to sign our real names under. Name tags to put on the dash of the Mach is a great ideal. Even space under to list mods would be even better.

I did not have the time to make the Las Vegas trip and I do regret missing out on all the seminars. You guys have the right purpose of a meet, learning about different items. This would give the SO time to go shopping or just quiet time and no gas fumes, go figure but they need to enjoy the trip as well. Think about it, they spend a little money and we spend alot of money!!

With the prestige of the Mach 1 Review and the membership of .Org, suppliers can be given the time in seminars to explain their products.

The biggest point to face is cost. This is probably the hardest item to address for everyone. Hotel and meals can dig into our mod money or the SO's shopping money. This is where the local Mustang Club may be of big help. They know where they meet and what locations can offer the best facilities.

These are just a few of my suggestions and hope they help. Just so you guys know, even if the meet is in California next year, I plan to be there even if I have to fly out just to make it.

[stevessaddlegrl]

hm. i understand the cause for concern when it comes to S.O.'s and kids. i agree that it's difficult to please everyone, but at the same time this is a car convention.

since i'm the woman in this group of planners, i had offered to take the women out to shop in vegas. i never got a pm or email about it. so what i took from it was either the women that are joining are interested in cars like myself, or just simply weren't planning on joining. as for kids, people just didn't bring them along or didn't have any. so, we didn't have the opportunity to deal with something like that.

all said will be taken into consideration, but no promises can be made. once again, i will most likely make my offer to take the women around. but if this agreed on, we will need some way of getting around and knowing women, this may take some cash. it all also depends on where we are, you know? if it's chicago, i'm sure there are many places to go. just keep an open mind.

[mach1of03]

Hi all. Like i posted earlier we have no kids to bring but thought i would throw kids into the mix because i`m sure it will come up in the future. I realize that some members will not be able to attend unless they bring their kids with them. I have nothing against kids infact i use to be one a long time ago. I`m mach1of03 and i approve this message.

[farmboy]

The meet, convention, round up or what ever it will be called is for cars, talking about cars and meeting everyone.

Yes if the location is well selected the SO and children will have available entertainment. I have been to a lot of shows and meets where children have attended and there were no problems. My grand son who is 5 was at Nashville and he thinks it is kwel that Grand Dad has a Mach.

I think most feel it is a chance to get away from the kids and have some time just to themselves or they will spend the day at the amusement park.

I also do not feel it is necessary to organize shopping trips. Meets are just great places to meet new friends and people with like interest. A woman that wants to go shopping will without an invitation, LOL!!

[tach9]

The meet, convention, round up or what ever it will be called is for cars, talking about cars and meeting everyone.

Yes if the location is well selected the SO and children will have available entertainment. I have been to a lot of shows and meets where children have attended and there were no problems. My grand son who is 5 was at Nashville and he thinks it is kwel that Grand Dad has a Mach.

I think most feel it is a chance to get away from the kids and have some time just to themselves or they will spend the day at the amusement park.

I also do not feel it is necessary to organize shopping trips. Meets are just great places to meet new friends and people with like interest. A woman that wants to go shopping will without an invitation, LOL!!

Hey Farmboy...I hear exactly what you are saying... One of the things that was very apparent at the convention was that our S.O.'s were in tune with meeting those on the ORG as well. Getting into the "spirit" of the convention yielded the best personal results...ya got out of it what you put in to it!!!

Yes it was about the Mach 1...but it also was about meeting people with similar likes and meeting the face behind the screen name...and to me..that was the best!!!! You can't imagine the conversations we all had that began with..Hey I'm XYZ on the ORG!!! The ORG provided a platform for all of us to converse online, but the convention broadened that scope by allowing us to meet and greet personally those that we've been chatting with online, in person!!!

As for shopping, it has it's place and those that wanted to in Vegas could have...but I'll admit....it wasn't my top priority given the limited amount of time we all had. Certainly in a different location may have yielded different results here.

One thing that to me really made an impact..the Friday night Mayhem at the Drag Strip!!! the S.O.'s were sooo into us Machers running down the strip!!! It was great to see the support...and hear the announcers talk about us Mach 1 all lined up in the staging area!!! It was sooo much fun...each of us supporting each others run down the strip...simply awesome!!!! It had been 27 years since I've Drag Raced...and it brought back a lot of fond memories...I enjoyed that tremendously as I know others did too...even our S.O.'s!!!

I do believe the key will always be in getting out of the convention, what you put in...and i am not talking about $'s..but talking about effort to enjoy yourself!!! Those that did ...had a blast!!!!!!

[C.W.]

for example, i would like seminars, drag racing, a road course, and some fun events mixed in. you know?

so please, give us ideas on what you all would like out of the convention....[/QUOTE]


drag racing, road racing, defensive driving, offensive driving, how about some venders (parts,detailing, exetra) would be nice to do some racing than a clinic, add some parts and race again... i can dream, can't i?
c-dub

[stevessaddlegrl]

thanks, c.w. and thanks farmboy about the input about the s.o's. just like we've been saying from the start, you can't make everyone happy. for me, i saw the convention as meeting all the really cool people from the org and learning about some cool stuff. things like the drag and beating tach at indoor kart racing were just a bonus. :shft

personally, i would love to meet the s.o's because it seems that all who attended were really cool. we all shared a common interest in the mach and vehicles in general. i mean, i'm one of the s.o's who gets down and dirty under the mach with steven and i'm all about getting two of my own fox bodies and building one for the drag and one for the street.

although i think it would be kinda cool to plan something like trips for the s.o's, i agree with farmboy that women will find a way to shop. i mean when we were in vegas, not all the s.o's attended things and they just went off on their own. this is fine. because seriously, if i wanted to go to tiffany's or to dolce, i would have. i'm perfectly capable of hailing a taxi and spending my own money--when i have it. :D

[MIB]

Finally got home Thurdsay night. For sure a longer drive on the way back :(

First..I think for the first attempt, all way really very nice. I've not been to an event yet where the food prices were not more than if ya just went to a restaurant. It needs to be remembered we took the whole restaurant. They opened and had staff for US ONLY.
Also, Tach did not charge us for the seminar. If you would figure in the cost of what a seminar usually costs, the breakfast was not expensive. I feel I paid for knowledge.
My biggest wish for next year would be close proximity to a track. It is so central to what we do with our cars. We must also have pre-registration. It would enable us to have a meeting/banquet type room as these must have guarantees. Since we had to drive everywhere (which isn't necessarily a bad thing), some of us couldn't/wouldn't drink. Heck, I never got to use my Sharpies..any I had sooo many kewl colors :D
That's all my tired brain can communicate right now..I'm sure it will spew out more later after a nap..a looong nap ;)

[stevessaddlegrl]

hey machme! so nice to know that you got home safely. i appreciate your comments as well. and yes, i'm sure that next year we will be able to use our sharpies...

[martysmachone]

Well let's see, location:
Someone suggested the centre of the country-the center of the continent is Rugby, North Dakota. I know this 'cause I added stop leak to my '76 Montego there. Not much else to see though :(
I'd like to see it in Indianapolis, reasonably central for everyone, only 2,200 miles from me :thud: , but hey that's only 400 more than Vegas was.
If anyone has contacts or even better owns/runs/manages a Pep-Boys or some such retail outlet, wouldn't it be a kewl event to close the shop up for a Sunday and do a cone course in the parking lot :shft . Or even close for a morning and advertise for all the gear heads in town to come and check out the Mach 1 show in the morning and take advantage of the "special product" sale items in the afternoon while meeting all us crazy people who drove in from far and wide to attend the 2nd annual roundup.
Definately pre-register, I wanna sign up NOW :bna !!! I'll definately be making more time available for the event, eight day round trip was great fun but felt like :turd2: when I got back.

[stevessaddlegrl]

i think pretty much everyone felt like :turd2: after they got home.... :( i even feel like :turd2: right now....but that's ok because i made my lasagna and cookies...and steven is home from work to eat dinner with me...yay!!! :bna

[mach1of03]

Maybe time permiting and if we have enough intrest we could have tach-9 or someone else with the knowledge give a short seminar on the proper use of the programers that so many of us are buying. i`m used to changing the timing and jets and not used to all this electronic bull. just a thought if there is enough intrest and time.

[Lonestar 7]

Dallas would be nice they have a Shelby plant there too. Although Indy would be cool I have been there and the museum at the track is really cool also that part of the US is cheap to stay and eat. I also like the midwest idea. New orleans from a party stand point is a blast too.

[tach9]

Maybe time permiting and if we have enough intrest we could have tach-9 or someone else with the knowledge give a short seminar on the proper use of the programers that so many of us are buying. i`m used to changing the timing and jets and not used to all this electronic bull. just a thought if there is enough intrest and time.

Now that's a good idea and one that can be done very easily :D I'm gonna write that one down and for sure I'll do this at the 2nd Annual Mach 1 Roundup!!!

[mach1of03]

Thanks tach. I know i could use the training and glad i finally came up with a idea we can all learn from. I will be there for sure to hear it. will not miss the 2nd annual.

[tach9]

Thanks tach. I know i could use the training and glad i finally came up with a idea we can all learn from. I will be there for sure to hear it. will not miss the 2nd annual.

Kewl!!! Thank you for a great suggestion...and I am looking forward to seeing you at the next convention!!!

[dbsample]

:( I sure wish that I could have gone! Hopefully I will have enough leave time available from my new job for the next one. I've read all the post, and nobody has mentioned this so figured I would. How about setting up with a local shop to dyno and tune. And if a local shop was pre-arranged with to install any mods people may want, it could help with sponsors, if the sponsors knew that people would be buying and installing their parts at the convention.

[tach9]

:( I sure wish that I could have gone! Hopefully I will have enough leave time available from my new job for the next one. I've read all the post, and nobody has mentioned this so figured I would. How about setting up with a local shop to dyno and tune. And if a local shop was pre-arranged with to install any mods people may want, it could help with sponsors, if the sponsors knew that people would be buying and installing their parts at the convention.

Hey DB...Good suggestion...it would require knowledge of the local performance realm. If there was a reputable shop available that would be great!!! It is something we'll look at. A lot depends on where the next convention is held. We are looking at a lot of locations. The biggest hold up seems to be weather at a particular time of year.

Personally, I'd like to have it In the San Francisco area...We could Drag Race at Sears point, we could all do the "LOOP" for the cruise...man that alone would be worth it!!! Can you imagine 50 plus Mach 1's on the Loop??? Yowza!!!...We could do what you are suggesting at Apex Motorsports, there is San Francisco for the sight seeing and entertainment, there's a run to Lake Tahoe (simply awsome), as well as a cruise to Maximum Motorsports in San Luis Obispo...down Hiway 1 Big Sur, we could do a Mono Lake California Passes/Yosemite run (simply gorgeous), there is also the opportunity to do a road course at Laguna Seca or Thunderhill (if timed correctly, we could all do the High Performance Driving School at Thunderhill Raceway...it would be all Mach 1's!!!), also again if timed correctly the Shelby Mini-Nationals is also a sight to behold...AND because we're Ford bretheren, we'd be able to participate...also a Show and Shine at the Nations Largest Roush Ford Dealer, plenty of inexpensive hotels, AND...did I mention absolutely the BEST WEATHER ANYWHERE!!!!!!!! NO HUMIDITY...NONE...NADA...WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WORD IS, TEMPERATURE IN THE HIGH 70'S TO MID 80'S...CLEAR BLUE SKIES FROM MAY THROUGH OCTOBER!!!!! OK...it is a bit far for the East Coasters though... :( BUT...we could make it a 5 Day Convention :D

OK...sooo if we are to pick a city, we need to know the amenities of that city and if it can support the convention in the manner similar to my above wish rant :hehe: So if you want to nominate a city/area...please do so the suggestion will be considered, but please keep in mind that the above criteria of activities etc. should be laid out with your city/area suggestion...TIA!!! :allhail:

OK...now back to our regularly scheduled programming.... :web:

[rsnider]

That sounds good to me!

[mach1of03]

I`m all in favor of a five day convention no matter where it`s held due to the fact that there is to much being planed for just a week-end. I know it`s a little harder for working people getting the time off but we could attend just part of the convention as long as the planners are aware of who is going to show up at each activity ahead of time so they can plan it. With my wife and myself times no problem as we are retired. I would like it as far away from iowa as possible as we enjoy driving. Had the mach out to las vegas twice and to medford oregon as relatives live in both places. Just my thoughts and input

[351c.i.d]

a convention in our back yard Aaron? Hmmm......

[tach9]

I`m all in favor of a five day convention no matter where it`s held due to the fact that there is to much being planed for just a week-end. I know it`s a little harder for working people getting the time off but we could attend just part of the convention as long as the planners are aware of who is going to show up at each activity ahead of time so they can plan it. With my wife and myself times no problem as we are retired. I would like it as far away from iowa as possible as we enjoy driving. Had the mach out to las vegas twice and to medford oregon as relatives live in both places. Just my thoughts and input

Mach...thanks for the comments. We are kicking around ideas...we do know what we all want...and that is to have a "GREAT CONVENTION!!!!" I personally think that no matter where as long as the activities etc. planned are good and no matter how far everyone has to drive...we'll all get out of the convention what we put into it :D

Certainly if we do the convention in my neck of the woods, we'd have better control over things and the smoother things would go....

[tach9]

a convention in our back yard Aaron? Hmmm......

Hey 351...yeah...be kinda kewl huh?
Hey folks...we'd appreciate some constructive comments here :thumbs:

[rsnider]

There are lots of race tracks all over the country and they are mostly alike... I'd really like to try "THE LOOP"!

[tach9]

There are lots of race tracks all over the country and they are mostly alike... I'd really like to try "THE LOOP"!

Hey Rick...You're right..there is only one Loop!!! It would indeed make the next convention very unique :D

[mach1of03]

i`m all for the loop. Was stationed at travis afb for awhile and lived in fairfield and would like to see that area again but where ever is fine with me.

[C.W.]

how about locating a performance driving school (#1 mod and all) and getting some learning of what the cars can/ can't do???
cali will be almost imposable for me, but i,ve always wanted to go there... how long of a trip from the N.Y. sand bar... would need at least 2 weeks... would need to find a light house and drive from montalk point light house "the end" to said light light the other end, ocean to ocean.
c.w.

[tach9]

how about locating a performance driving school (#1 mod and all) and getting some learning of what the cars can/ can't do???
cali will be almost imposable for me, but i,ve always wanted to go there... how long of a trip from the N.Y. sand bar... would need at least 2 weeks... would need to find a light house and drive from montalk point light house "the end" to said light light the other end, ocean to ocean.
c.w.

CW..I used to fly into Islip frequently, so I know the sand bar you're on :D Out here in California..we could do the driving school easily as I do that every quarter as it is at Thunderhill Raceway....don't know where the next convention will be held...but I do know of a great Light house at Pillar Point....Halfmoon Bay...kinda by the Loop!!! It would be well wortht he drive no matter where the convention will be held..IMHO :)

[C.W.]

CW..I used to fly into Islip frequently, so I know the sand bar you're on :D Out here in California..we could do the driving school easily as I do that every quarter as it is at Thunderhill Raceway....don't know where the next convention will be held...but I do know of a great Light house at Pillar Point....Halfmoon Bay...kinda by the Loop!!! It would be well wortht he drive no matter where the convention will be held..IMHO :)


I-sliped, is the local. not many direct flights though. nothing like driving the mach on the open road... ... after hours :hehe: .... it's the way to go, but i think i may have to trailer her with the faithfull bronco :D
c.w.

[tach9]

I-sliped, is the local. not many direct flights though. nothing like driving the mach on the open road... ... after hours :hehe: .... it's the way to go, but i think i may have to trailer her with the faithfull bronco :D
c.w.

I hope no matter where it is...you'll be there CW!!!!

[C.W.]

I hope no matter where it is...you'll be there CW!!!!


gotta be... my arse still hurts (from me kicking it) after missing Vegas :thud:
c-dub

[labels2]

my .02 cents worth of thoughts, wonderings and ramblings, maybe a nickel worths to our canadian friends....

having it near here (SF area) would diffenitly help in the planning, since those putting it on live here and is easier to set it up if you have easy acess to the events for planning.

but seems the majority that came to Las Vegas drove less then 1000 miles
(1 or 2 canadian cars and one from Georgia basicly longest drives)

so how many would come from the east coast 2000 plus miles to the bay area.
( in the mid west/central area hopefully would seem able to draw a lot from each coast.
would seem most would have at best a weeks time frame to do anything
(based on most vacation times)

would / do people really drive to a car event, expecting / wanting to have thier car tuned up or parts installed, would seem like something to be done at home. and not something to spend vacation time half way across the country doing.

most car events i attend, dont have planned shopping or gambling outings, they have open evening time to do that or sleep or whatever.
someone will say hey we are going to the mall this evening or whatever who wants to go tonite.
evening time is usually on MOST nites ( not all ) left open and small groups go off to do what they like, want or need to do.

if you have events all day and then all nite many will skip things to go do something they want or need to do.

there were what 20 something cars in LV and i see about 35 or 40 different people posting on this forum, looking between the 2 Mach registries, personally i am very amazed / disapointed out of ALL the Machs 20 to 40 people are all that have any interest.

many will speak, but generally to hear themsleves,
then to actually be interested in coming.

what makes people go to ALL the other car event things that happen all over the country all year long?

many have set events they attend all ready, and may have for years.
what will make them want and actually come to our mach roundup.

the wife and i had a super time in LV learned a lot and saw many super cars and great people.
weather its 20 or 200 we look forward to the next one already.

have seen many cool ideas on here so far, we may need a month this one .....

disclamer ::random thoughts not ment to piss anyone off

[heathdude]

I think that the hardest part of the entire convention theme is the fact that the it's about the car, not so much the thought of the car. It's not like going to a Metabolife convention where it's easy to pack a bottle in your pocket and talk about how it's going to make you lose 50 pounds in a week and the new infomercial.

It's almost a total given that you need to bring your Mach to the event, we had a couple folks come without their car and then there was the crazies that came from halfway around the continent to be there. My hats are definetly off to the dedication.

I'm ready for the next event, although with a new job it might be more difficult to make longer trips to anything beyond 1000 miles or so. Maybe it might be worth pondering another group starting up a joint event for those east of the ol' Miss.

I think that's why we had the numbers we ended up with, people wanted to come but couldn't justify the travel. Hence, why most of us from the southwest came to Vegas.

Here's an idea, how about mini conventions in a couple different areas with teleconferencing? :web: I have no idea how much it would cost, but it would get more Machers together. Do a couple four hour lectures/Q&A/informative sessions and local events the rest of the time.

My hats off to Aaron and Steve for the planning involved with Vegas, but we could get some others involved across the country. There has been some talk of it.

:thumbs: or :turd2:

[C.W.]

i would like to see it closer to the east coast (like va.),but understand the problems with planning and all. i think the dallas texas area would be the closest thing to middle america and still have some kind of "civilization" to host an event.
c.w.

any were is better than long island, new york!!! NO tracks, lots of traffic, and i doubt many if any will run the guantlet through the city to get here.

[mach1of03]

If it wasn`t true i`d take offence to the fact theres no civilization here in middle america, we have a lot of civilization but they are all in the feed lots. I do agree with you on the new york area though.

[C.W.]

If it wasn`t true i`d take offence to the fact theres no civilization here in middle america, we have a lot of civilization but they are all in the feed lots. I do agree with you on the new york area though.


no offence intended, just think dallas is closest to middle with what they are looking for, indy is close but alittle east... great time (f1 and all) but east.
the worst thing about traviling is coming home. :thud:
c-dub

[mach1of03]

I agree c.w. about dallas and no offence taken. i was foolin ya.

[MM]

how about michigan lol

[tach9]

Thanks for the comments, please keep them coming with what I have asked. I know that we on the West Coast are spoiled as far as weather is concerened...there is nowhere else in the country that can boast such great sunshine and no humidity :D ...but we're looking for a location that can offer many things, not just being in the middle of the country.

I'd like to hear from some folks about their area and what it's like. The 2nd Annual Mach 1 Roundup Committee...has to "live" the area by "your" descriptions....so let us know...

[tach9]

how about michigan lol

Music...it definately is a consideration....I have thought of it and it's amenaties...Give me your take on things from a local telling us Californian's what it's like...

[MM]

i'm in for next time for sure. take my advice don't come to mich there is nothing here for you but tickets and car swallowing potholes. to some1 behind me on the highway it must look like i'm warming up my tires swerving through the damn things. does that work for you but there it alot of history here the would be good. i could give the tour. ....and where the parking lot is, is where henry ford first house was lol

[tach9]

my .02 cents worth of thoughts, wonderings and ramblings, maybe a nickel worths to our canadian friends....

having it near here (SF area) would diffenitly help in the planning, since those putting it on live here and is easier to set it up if you have easy acess to the events for planning.

but seems the majority that came to Las Vegas drove less then 1000 miles
(1 or 2 canadian cars and one from Georgia basicly longest drives)

so how many would come from the east coast 2000 plus miles to the bay area.
( in the mid west/central area hopefully would seem able to draw a lot from each coast.
would seem most would have at best a weeks time frame to do anything
(based on most vacation times)

would / do people really drive to a car event, expecting / wanting to have thier car tuned up or parts installed, would seem like something to be done at home. and not something to spend vacation time half way across the country doing.

most car events i attend, dont have planned shopping or gambling outings, they have open evening time to do that or sleep or whatever.
someone will say hey we are going to the mall this evening or whatever who wants to go tonite.
evening time is usually on MOST nites ( not all ) left open and small groups go off to do what they like, want or need to do.

if you have events all day and then all nite many will skip things to go do something they want or need to do.

there were what 20 something cars in LV and i see about 35 or 40 different people posting on this forum, looking between the 2 Mach registries, personally i am very amazed / disapointed out of ALL the Machs 20 to 40 people are all that have any interest.

many will speak, but generally to hear themsleves,
then to actually be interested in coming.

what makes people go to ALL the other car event things that happen all over the country all year long?

many have set events they attend all ready, and may have for years.
what will make them want and actually come to our mach roundup.

the wife and i had a super time in LV learned a lot and saw many super cars and great people.
weather its 20 or 200 we look forward to the next one already.

have seen many cool ideas on here so far, we may need a month this one .....

disclamer ::random thoughts not ment to piss anyone off

Hey Jim, thanks for the input!! Believe me I have tabulated lots of data so that the 2nd Convention is "fault" free as they say :D It's going to be a lot different...but still the same "FUN" quotient!!!

[MM]

i think i should be more in the middle the us because there is no way i'm drive to ca with a s/c in my car. maybe if i ram the back of a big rig i can hitch a ride

[labels2]

when is the woodward ford cruise week there in MI

[351c.i.d]

i think i should be more in the middle the us because there is no way i'm drive to ca with a s/c in my car. maybe if i ram the back of a big rig i can hitch a ride

Why wouldn't you drive with a s/c on your mach?

[MM]

351 one reason i get very board on the highway having the mach stock is bad enough i have caught the rev limiter in fith a few to many times all ready i can't imagine what it would be like for a 4day trip with a s/c label like three days at the end of aug like around the 25th or something

[MM]

better break out the credit car if you need racing fuel for your car to go to woodward its like $6 a gallon around the cruise days. oh the ford cruise i thought you ment the dream cruise im not sure on that

[351c.i.d]

well either way you look at it, if we don't hold it in michigan you're gonna be drivin' on the highway.

[Berzerk]

I think some sort of cruise, from what I hear, that could be loop-esque maybe? That would be cool if you ask me. A nice long cruise, like the loop. I don't know much about the loop, but from what I hear it would be awesome.

Something a little closer to the East Coast maybe? :hehe:

Summer time/Vacation is huge. A lot of workers and students around here.

[MM]

we'll i don't mind the highway but cali is a little out of my range. i would be to the point where i would be trying to take cops on a roll :D

[351c.i.d]

Ahhh Cali isn't too far dude. If the Canadians can make it, so can you you eh?

[MM]

i don't know aboot that. lol i can't be in a car all day i got do to some heath probs plus arn't the cops bad out there for mods or is that just towords ricers?

[stevessaddlegrl]

hm...the way i see it is i love to travel so i wouldn't mind driving where ever. thing is, this is our playground so we know what there is to do, where to go, who to talk to, etc. you know, i never really thought about having out here. when you think about it, there's so much to do out here and we have access to so many things. for one, we've got the loop which is totally awesome. we've got san fran, awesome weather, great facilities for a track day or what have you....the possibilities are endless.

now i understand the strong demand to have it in a more central location. i makes sense and it would be "fair". but you know, every convention i've ever been to, i never got to voice my opinion as far as location or what i got to do. i was interested, i paid the fees, and i went.

besides, if you think about it, this thing is catching on and i know it's going to be around for many years to come. eventually, it will come to your neck of the woods....so don't stress about it now. :thumbs:

[351c.i.d]

naw cops aint bad. Just don't act like stupid ricers on the streets trying to fast and furious and you'll be fine.

So what would be the longest distance you would drive?

[MM]

alaska :D no i don't mind the drive. i just would have to get some1 to go with me because i would start to have conversations with myself at about the midwest lol. i will just bring some muscle relaxsers and i will be good to go http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/aetsch/cheeky-smiley-006.gif i think haveing it at a different location every year would be cool though. plus the farther a way it is the more time i have to take of work

[MrsGrackle]

alaska :D no i don't mind the drive. i just would have to get some1 to go with me because i would start to have conversations with myself at about the midwest lol. i will just bring some muscle relaxsers and i will be good to go http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/aetsch/cheeky-smiley-006.gif i think haveing it at a different location every year would be cool though. plus the farther a way it is the more time i have to take of work


I think Michigan would be a great place. (that's where I'm from and I would love to go home for a visit). There's lots to do there also. Let me do some checking and see what can be done in Michigan. There maybe a sponsor in Jackson. Maybe if everyone pitched in and got information for different locations it will help make a decision. I don't see why Steve, Aaron and there better halfs have to do all the work. If everyone wants to see this continue I think everyone should pitch in.

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[MM]

i could deffenatly help if it was in mich

[Berzerk]

Michigan would be kool b/c it almost half way for everyone on the coasts. It isn't exactly half or anything like that, but its gonna split the distance instead of a coast to coast drive.

[stevessaddlegrl]

it's nice to see where everyone would like the convention to be. just a friendly reminder tho: if you suggest a place, could you please say why? like what does the city have to offer? does it have a raceway? attractions? and why should we hold the convention there more so than any other place? reasons, people...reasons....

[Berzerk]

Michigan- I believe it has the Ford museum...I know a museum, but this one has cars

[MM]

lol yeah it has it

[FMX1]

My two cents. I had a blast at the convention and I know that you all had to do some major work to get things done. I appreciated everything, and thank you.

I pretty much read this whole thread, and when Tach mentioning having it in the bay area. I began to think that might not be such a bad idea. This may sound bad from someone who is rather fond of the central coast. Plus it would be a real easy trip for me, but I began thinking about the other folks who are on the other side of the Mississippi. That's a long haul. I began to think again...what if the convention was in the same place every year. I know this may sound a little dull, but here is my thought. Having it in the same place would mean that the variations in cost would change only slightly from one year to another for economical purposes. Hotels restaurants and establishments that would be used would have an idea what to expect each year. Knowing a somewhat stable price and a definite location and time frame would allow people (us owners) to plan the time and funds that might be needed. This would also allow for the planners to set things up regularly. They would not have to work as hard and might be able to enjoy some of the events that they worked hard to set up. If it's set up someplace near a large metropolitan area where there is more than just a hand full of stuff to do, then events and places to visit can be changed or rearranged from year to year.

You all asked. Just my two cents.

Peace!

[mach1of03]

This article is in this months muscle mustangs and fast fords magasine on page 31
STARDUST RESORT AND CASINO OFFERS NEW SPECIAL AUTO AMENITIES TAILORD FOR CAR BUFFS AND CLUB MEETS.
The star dust resort and casino recently announced the unveling of a number of special programs geared to attract national and regional car clubs, as well as individual owners and hobbyists with their collector vehicles.The auto-minded program marks how the stardust is giving 'car guys' what no other hotel in las vegas can-a home away from home for their prized autos.
The stardust now offers special group rates, prefered parking areas a collector car concierge, and outlined driving tours. Additional auto amenities for car clubs and individual hobbyists include access to detailing services, mobile battery chargers, and auto fluids such as oil and coolant- which are also readily available for guests.
Special preferred parking at the stardust property is also available for car clubs and related organizations. Located in a highly visible area so members and other guests can enjoy the vehicles. The resort also can make arrangements for 24-hour special on-site security for members auto and trailers.
"We think las vegas offers car clubs the perfect venue for their national meets, concours events, and conventions", says Tony Taeubel. vice president and general manager of the Stardust Resort & Casino.
Just thought i would pass that on for what it`s worth.

[Blazinsteed]

How about orlando. Its got two choices of beaches lots of fun tourist spots. Lots of mustang stuff and a track.

[stevessaddlegrl]

hm...all very interesting posts--thanks ya'll!! you know, holding it in the same place could be a good thing too. we'll be familiar with the area and accomodations. we could even work out a deal with different places and possibly get discounts for our convention.

but on the other hand, it's nice to change up the scenery and i think part of the allure of these conventions is the driving. of course it's a pain if you have to drive across the country, but if we can get this thing growing, think about the caravans!

i was watching kings of the road on tv the other day about the 40th. it just sounded so awesome! watching people travel across the country and meet each other. wow. my hope is that someday our convention could be more wide-spread. i'd like to see new and old machs get together and share stories, cars, and just get to know each other. i think that is our ultimate goal.

anyway, keep the comments coming as i know many would like to see this thing take off!!! maybe one day this thing could be huge and we'll have hundreds of machs in attendance!

[shaker3]

while its about the car,the comaraderie of the owner's/drivers its what's it's all about or atleast I think so and some of us "older" drivers having a problem driving 10-12 hrs a day to make the convention...these old bones ain't what they once were :thumbs: :beer:

[MM]

alright that settles it. were doing it in hawaii. i don't have money to get it shipped so i need help from some1 to weld on 55gallon drums :D

[MACHDOUG]

Driving cross country would be a great experience for me, as im sure for others too. But is not a easy commitment, I had two back surgeries and close to 50 and driving 10-12 hr days will just kill me, but im willing to do it. I saw "kings of the road" on sunday and i had goose bumps just to think that we can do this. in the other hand, I agree with FMX1 Las Vegas would be great again, and I promise to participate in all of it (I missed a few events in vegas) but not this time...Once a year in Las Vegas ..great

[mach1of03]

If and when the convention is ever held in las vegas again a nice road trip would be thru the vally of fire. really suppost to be something to see.

[Lonestar 7]

Hawaii now thats a wild idea. We need to rent a tanker to get all the cars over there.

[tach9]

Ahhhhh...Las Vegas :bna I think many forget the reason that we are having the Convention...it's supposed to be all about the Mach 1 :D What I personally found out in Vegas, was that there was little time to enjoy any activities other than what was planned. Nightlife was limited for me ...Cruising the strip while impressive with all the lights etc...was a royal PITA!!!!! We actually looked at The Valley of Fire for a crusie, but it's 1.5 hours out...plus the cruise, then 1.5 hours back....we didn't have enough time, although I did hear it is a spectacular drive...we barely had enough time to cruise ovver to Hoover Dam... :spinem:

Now for the 2nd Annual Mach 1 Roundup...I think those that do not attend are really going to kick themselves in the butt for not driving out however far it may be :hehe:

Here's a list of just a few of the activities:

1.> A real Cruise...I could tell ya where...but then I'd have to kill ya :D
2.> Drag Racing
3.> Road Racing
4.> Indoor Kart Racing
5.> Dyno Day
6.> Welcome Dinner
7.> Spectacular Good Bye Dinner
8.> Night Entertainment (this is a good one!!!!)
9.> AND....much....much more...........

[shaker3]

Hawaii now thats a wild idea. We need to reant a tanker to get all the cars over there.
I vote for Hawaii,it ain't nuttin but water and all I got is swamp down here so I figure some 36 inch Gumbo mudders ought to do the trick..have gator will travel :beer:

[MM]

lol have gator will travel thats great. no tsl siped superswampers. mc baja radials do surprisingly well in mud to. lonestar well could always make a raft.

[shaker3]

lol have gator will travel thats great. no tsl siped superswampers. mc baja radials do surprisingly well in mud to. lonestar well could always make a raft.
well,I was figuring between the mudders,a pirogue and a gator I got the anything that floats category covered and my gator will have a toothache so he won't want to be messed with and when he slows down I whack wit da duck bill pole mai cher and he speed up an get me to Hawaii quicker :thumbs:

[04Retro]

As one who intended to go to Vegas but couldn't I feel it is a little improper to really comment in any form as to that event other than to thank Tach and 351 for all their hard work...

...Tach and 351 it sounds like you each lost some $$ on 'Vegas' from the post event posts...but from past posts I know Tach won't take direct charity-so Tach, any objection if I throw a $100 donation into the 05 event 'kitty' to cover some of the start up costs as to that event-starting out with a positive 'balance'. If the weather holds I'll try to make the Raceshop BBQ on Saturday , if not I'll have to catch you in town one evening (I'm in Citrus Heights, say within 1 mile of the Roseville border so we should be able to arrange something..work in downtown--Normal blacksheep meeting not possible..8 am in Redwood City means leaving Sac at 5-5:30AM--unless your providing naked females I just can't do that hour)...

..but as I always butt in where I'm not wanted I'll throw in my opinion on the 'future' event topic. First look to the Bullittheads and their first (very successful-read big turnout not to mean the Mach 1 convention was not successful, it was) meeting-it was held in Ennis Texas...Ennis Texas?? why-because the organizer lived there..he knew the hotels etc...while Vegas is out west, it was still a long haul for even Tach and company. It was not in their home town but 550+ miles away. I'd treat 04 as an experiment, a testing of the waters-to learning things, like, charging for registration etc.

For 05 I'd really push for Sacramento/Bay Area--Tach, 351 and the Black Sheep know the area-what can and can't be done and at what costs-working out the details is a lot easier when close to home.

Now, as with the Bullittheads (Mustang Bullitt owners) moving it around each year is great as not everyone can or will go each year with cross country drives involved-its nice to have it 'close to home once every 3 years or so. BUT the key is to 'plan' those distance drives as they are fun BUT WORK--I was one of those nuts on the Mustangs Across America drive (recently highlighted on the Travel Channel) who drove to Nashville in April from California-left Sacramento with 183 miles on the 04 Mach.

so--05 in California per above gets my 'vote'.

Head East in 06--I trust you are aware that the Mustang Club of America will have a big show/event for their 30th birthday in 06--on the East coast most likely. There will probably be several caravans going from different points in the country...Machs can 'do their thing' but also hook up and participate with others in the Mustang community and really show off the Machs.....(kill 2 birds with one stone kind of thing).

07 hold the event in the 'middle' of the country (Detroit?) to give those folks as well as the east coast group a break from driving.

08 back out west-give the west coast folks a little break from 2 years of traveling.

09--heading EAST! The big thing in the Mustang community will be the 45th birthday party with caravans from all over the country going. It would probably be best to tie into this event. There is some minor discussion of going west for the 'birthday party' in 09 but I do not expect it--In April California has a big event already (Knott's) and I strongly doubt that the MCA board and the group that puts Knott's together will have a meeting of the minds..so expect Nashville or Charlotte.

As to places mentioned by others- Detroit--many just went there in 03 for the Ford 100 party as with Nashville in 04 for the 40th party. I can understand if on the issue of travel fairness you want to head east in 05 after Vegas in 04 but I'd at least consider options other then Detroit and Nashville.

Folks might also want to consider 'regional' events-in March 03 we put together a run of 20 Bullitts (and 2 03 Machs-both white by the way) to Hearst Castle for a weekend event--had 2 main caravans (1 going north and the other south). Later in April there was a general caravan of about 15-18 "mustangs' from Sacramento headed to LA for the annual Knott's show. I know of several east coast shows through out the year that have similiar runs--regional Mach groups could do the same thing and build the unity that really carries over to the excitment of an 'annual' meeting and caravan to get there.

Well, this is too long already....Mach on!

[stevessaddlegrl]

wow, man! thanks for the comment!!!! :thumbs:

[MIB]

Now for the 2nd Annual Mach 1 Roundup...I think those that do not attend are really going to kick themselves in the butt for not driving out however far it may be :hehe:

Here's a list of just a few of the activities:

1.> A real Cruise...I could tell ya where...but then I'd have to kill ya :D
2.> Drag Racing
3.> Road Racing
4.> Indoor Kart Racing
5.> Dyno Day
6.> Welcome Dinner
7.> Spectacular Good Bye Dinner
8.> Night Entertainment (this is a good one!!!!)
9.> AND....much....much more...........[/QUOTE]

Hmmm...something tells me my Mach is gonna have to find it's way to Northern CA next year... :thud:

[tach9]

As one who intended to go to Vegas but couldn't I feel it is a little improper to really comment in any form as to that event other than to thank Tach and 351 for all their hard work...

...Tach and 351 it sounds like you each lost some $$ on 'Vegas' from the post event posts...but from past posts I know Tach won't take direct charity-so Tach, any objection if I throw a $100 donation into the 05 event 'kitty' to cover some of the start up costs as to that event-starting out with a positive 'balance'. If the weather holds I'll try to make the Raceshop BBQ on Saturday , if not I'll have to catch you in town one evening (I'm in Citrus Heights, say within 1 mile of the Roseville border so we should be able to arrange something..work in downtown--Normal blacksheep meeting not possible..8 am in Redwood City means leaving Sac at 5-5:30AM--unless your providing naked females I just can't do that hour)...

..but as I always butt in where I'm not wanted I'll throw in my opinion on the 'future' event topic. First look to the Bullittheads and their first (very successful-read big turnout not to mean the Mach 1 convention was not successful, it was) meeting-it was held in Ennis Texas...Ennis Texas?? why-because the organizer lived there..he knew the hotels etc...while Vegas is out west, it was still a long haul for even Tach and company. It was not in their home town but 550+ miles away. I'd treat 04 as an experiment, a testing of the waters-to learning things, like, charging for registration etc.

For 05 I'd really push for Sacramento/Bay Area--Tach, 351 and the Black Sheep know the area-what can and can't be done and at what costs-working out the details is a lot easier when close to home.

Now, as with the Bullittheads (Mustang Bullitt owners) moving it around each year is great as not everyone can or will go each year with cross country drives involved-its nice to have it 'close to home once every 3 years or so. BUT the key is to 'plan' those distance drives as they are fun BUT WORK--I was one of those nuts on the Mustangs Across America drive (recently highlighted on the Travel Channel) who drove to Nashville in April from California-left Sacramento with 183 miles on the 04 Mach.

so--05 in California per above gets my 'vote'.

Head East in 06--I trust you are aware that the Mustang Club of America will have a big show/event for their 30th birthday in 06--on the East coast most likely. There will probably be several caravans going from different points in the country...Machs can 'do their thing' but also hook up and participate with others in the Mustang community and really show off the Machs.....(kill 2 birds with one stone kind of thing).

07 hold the event in the 'middle' of the country (Detroit?) to give those folks as well as the east coast group a break from driving.

08 back out west-give the west coast folks a little break from 2 years of traveling.

09--heading EAST! The big thing in the Mustang community will be the 45th birthday party with caravans from all over the country going. It would probably be best to tie into this event. There is some minor discussion of going west for the 'birthday party' in 09 but I do not expect it--In April California has a big event already (Knott's) and I strongly doubt that the MCA board and the group that puts Knott's together will have a meeting of the minds..so expect Nashville or Charlotte.

As to places mentioned by others- Detroit--many just went there in 03 for the Ford 100 party as with Nashville in 04 for the 40th party. I can understand if on the issue of travel fairness you want to head east in 05 after Vegas in 04 but I'd at least consider options other then Detroit and Nashville.

Folks might also want to consider 'regional' events-in March 03 we put together a run of 20 Bullitts (and 2 03 Machs-both white by the way) to Hearst Castle for a weekend event--had 2 main caravans (1 going north and the other south). Later in April there was a general caravan of about 15-18 "mustangs' from Sacramento headed to LA for the annual Knott's show. I know of several east coast shows through out the year that have similiar runs--regional Mach groups could do the same thing and build the unity that really carries over to the excitment of an 'annual' meeting and caravan to get there.

Well, this is too long already....Mach on!

Retro...we gotta hook up!!! Yup I'm in Roseville....Sierra College and Douglas...we are close to each other...Thanks for the response and the comments they are really appreciated!!! Lots of good thoughts and these are the comments that really help the "selection committee" decide on where the 2nd Convention will be held!!!

Thanks a lot!!!! Hee's my cell...408-391-9114...let's hook up!!!

[tach9]

Now for the 2nd Annual Mach 1 Roundup...I think those that do not attend are really going to kick themselves in the butt for not driving out however far it may be :hehe:

Here's a list of just a few of the activities:

1.> A real Cruise...I could tell ya where...but then I'd have to kill ya :D
2.> Drag Racing
3.> Road Racing
4.> Indoor Kart Racing
5.> Dyno Day
6.> Welcome Dinner
7.> Spectacular Good Bye Dinner
8.> Night Entertainment (this is a good one!!!!)
9.> AND....much....much more...........

Hmmm...something tells me my Mach is gonna have to find it's way to Northern CA next year... :thud:[/QUOTE]


Nothing is cast in stone yet :D ...but I haven't heard anyone make a "Great" case for the 2nd convention to come to their town yet :hehe:

[MM]

tach do your best to make it "minor" friendly what ever you decide. but if not i have my way around it :D

[tach9]

tach do your best to make it "minor" friendly what ever you decide. but if not i have my way around it :D

Music....No worries...there are a lot of "family' activities planned....there is nothing "rated" X at the moment...LOL..!!!!

Based on a lot of the things planned in Vegas...it was all PG-13 :D

[heathdude]

The Bay Are works good for me, I was up there for a year in the shipyards and enjoyed it very much. Except that one night at Olive Oyl's where "Ladies Night" meant LADIES NIGHT. It was an honest mistake :o

[tach9]

The Bay Are works good for me, I was up there for a year in the shipyards and enjoyed it very much. Except that one night at Olive Oyl's where "Ladies Night" meant LADIES NIGHT. It was an honest mistake :o

So that "WAS YOU" heathdude!!!! All my Military friends heard about that one...LOL..!!!

[MIB]

Nothing is cast in stone yet :D ...but I haven't heard anyone make a "Great" case for the 2nd convention to come to their town yet :hehe:[/QUO

Umm.. Road Atlanta????? :shft
Good ole' southern hospitality ?? :beer:

[farmboy]

Charlotte, North Carolina. There is the road course at Carolina Motorsports Park and then the number of Drag Strips in this area is many. Carowinds for the children and for a real test is the Tail of the Dragon in the Smokies. Roush is located in this area. Great hotels and restaurants available.

Atlanta, Georgia. Road Atlanta is just beyond belief and then there is the Drag Strip where the National are held just up the Road. There is Stone Mountain for a great cruse and the lights of Atlanta can compete with any city. Mustangs Unlimited has a facility in Atlanta. All interstates to the South go through Atlanta: I-75, I-85 and I-20. For the children there is Six Flags over Georgia. Dyno at Team Ford! The number of available restaurants and motels is just about unlimited.

Between Atlanta and Charlotte it is only a 4 hour drive. We have it all here in the south. Yes, the rest rooms are all in doors and we do have running water. :lmao:

[heathdude]

So that "WAS YOU" heathdude!!!! All my Military friends heard about that one...LOL..!!!

Sure, one little mistake and you never live it down. :lmao:

[MM]

i don't want to know

[shaker3]

Sure, one little mistake and you never live it down. :lmao:
sounds like you borrowed Steve's yeller drawers parachute...lol

[heathdude]

sounds like you borrowed Steve's yeller drawers parachute...lol

Don't bring up the lingerie story.!!! I swear it was Spitty, not me.

[Berzerk]

NEVER TO Pennsylvania. It's boring here, a lot of history and culture, but not a lot for car conventions. Soom good country roads though..... :hehe:
I like the way 04Retro is thinking, with his plan were killing 2 Chevys with one stone multiple times!!! :thumbs:
Like shaker3 said, "older" drivers, although I am 19, a cross country drive will take me a long time seing I can not stay in a seated/confined position with my knees.(5 Knees surgeries in 1 year!) I am not being a kill-joy about the west coast idea; I used to vacation in San Diego for about 4 years and it was awesome there. But it is held there, do it in the SUMMER TIME while people can take vacation and so I can take my good 'ol time reaching the other coast!
All-in-all, I'm up for anything, just give a lot of notice and have it over summer time or some sort of break and I'm there!

[stevessaddlegrl]

totally feel you on the knee surgery...torn acl and lateral miniscus here...ick! even the 9hr drive from norcal was killer on both my knees going to vegas...arthritis kills!!!! and i'm only 22!!!

[Berzerk]

totally feel you on the knee surgery...torn acl and lateral miniscus here...ick! even the 9hr drive from norcal was killer on both my knees going to vegas...arthritis kills!!!! and i'm only 22!!!
Yea, the knees tend to go fast for some reason. I guess football didn't help them a lot either. Had 2, went back and played, stopped very quickly then went and had 3 more.(3 on the left, 2 on the right) I was 16-17 when this was all happening. 2 years out and I got more arthritis than I know what to do with. Days when I can't bend my knees. They said I'm at high risk for rheumatoid arthritis (RA) which literaly destroys the knee and eventualy it basicaly rots away! YES!!!!
How did you tear your ACL? Sorry to hear someone else has gone through the hell of blown knees, young too.
one of mine is 1/2 way torn and both miniscus are shot, no surgery for those yet.......

[stevessaddlegrl]

i tore it 1st playing basketball and 2nd (the final tear) cheerleading. i had surgery on it in oct of '99. actually...right about now 5 years ago...i remember being in crutches on halloween. i have two silk screws in and a graft from my patella tendon. i had massive atrophy from the surgery although my recovery was quick. i remember going through pt and getting electricity shot through my knee for muscle stimulation. i had it on the highest setting and it wasn't bad...then i hear airmen in the background with low to medium settings for their knees and i was like...men are wimps...hehehe...

look at the calves that aren't there anymore...*sigh* but they're back... :D

[Berzerk]

i tore it 1st playing basketball and 2nd (the final tear) cheerleading. i had surgery on it in oct of '99. actually...right about now 5 years ago...i remember being in crutches on halloween. i have two silk screws in and a graft from my patella tendon. i had massive atrophy from the surgery although my recovery was quick. i remember going through pt and getting electricity shot through my knee for muscle stimulation. i had it on the highest setting and it wasn't bad...then i hear airmen in the background with low to medium settings for their knees and i was like...men are wimps...hehehe...

Atrophy is nasty. Your knees just get crappy and never get better. My insurance canceled my PT so I am stuck in atrophy in both knees along with multiple tears to all sorts of fun stuff. I loved electo-stim, felt awesome. Way to suck it up and take it like a......ummmm.....you know..........
I'm glad you made a full recovery! ACL tears are nasty stuff, and add atrophy and you could be in some big trouble. Good to hear a success story after so many failures.
Congratulations on the full recovery, and sorry everyone else for the hijack, it's just kool to see someone make a full recovery after going through hell!

[tach9]

Hell is tibial, fibula and femur hyperextened plateau fractures, calcaneous fracture, complete knee fracture with no bone fragments bigger than 1/4 inch...lots of bone grafts..and plenty of titanium plates and screws....now that is hell. 12 months of morphine daily, Physical Therapy 5 times a week, cortisone/xylocaine injections every other day,...oh and did I mention 20 months and counting with only 126 degrees of flexion. Yeah...I'm still recovering... :D It hasn't be a very good two years ....but I'm a fighter :eg: it's going to take more than that to get me down ...

[MM]

what did you do?

[Lonestar 7]

Yeah it sucks to be injured. I have had two spinal shots to deal with back pain from the jerk who hit us multiple times. She hit the gas instead of the brakes. I drove with my brother up to Arkansas for family reuion and had my little helpers so I tend to get a little werd on long drives. But I hope to make this next event. I can plan to get spinal shot then hit the road they last for weeks to months. I think the Doc can do one last one before surgery. From the video yall had a super time in Vegas!

[shaker3]

I thought I was bad with DJD(degenerative joint disease more commonly known as arthritis) in my neck at C5,6 and 7 and the same thing in my elbow from a FX when I got run over and bounced for 83 feet,but it was ok I dented his fender and broke his windshield. Oh and I almost forgot the road rash scar that covers my forearm and upper arm but what pizzed me off more was the touchup work I had to have done to my tat from the road rash. So I guess I'm not so bad off afterall.

[mach1of03]

I twisted my ankle once

[stevessaddlegrl]

I twisted my ankle once


hee hee.... :lmao:

[heathdude]

Hell is tibial, fibula and femur hyperextened plateau fractures, calcaneous fracture, complete knee fracture with no bone fragments bigger than 1/4 inch...lots of bone grafts..and plenty of titanium plates and screws....now that is hell. 12 months of morphine daily, Physical Therapy 5 times a week, cortisone/xylocaine injections every other day,...oh and did I mention 20 months and counting with only 126 degrees of flexion. Yeah...I'm still recovering... :D It hasn't be a very good two years ....but I'm a fighter :eg: it's going to take more than that to get me down ...

Damn Aaron, ouchie!!!!

Doesn't seem to bother your shifting too much :shft

[tach9]

Damn Aaron, ouchie!!!!

Doesn't seem to bother your shifting too much :shft


Yeah now ya know why I had that handicap parking Sticker on the Mach :D Driving itself isn't so bad...it's walking for 20 minutes + or standing for that amount of time that kills me...

Driving is fine :shft

[MIB]

Hell is tibial, fibula and femur hyperextened plateau fractures, calcaneous fracture, complete knee fracture with no bone fragments bigger than 1/4 inch...lots of bone grafts..and plenty of titanium plates and screws....now that is hell. 12 months of morphine daily, Physical Therapy 5 times a week, cortisone/xylocaine injections every other day,...oh and did I mention 20 months and counting with only 126 degrees of flexion. Yeah...I'm still recovering... :D It hasn't be a very good two years ....but I'm a fighter :eg: it's going to take more than that to get me down ...

Well... I broke a nail this morning... :rant:

[MM]

i got a wicked hangnail

[gotmach?]

How about Dallas or San Antonio or New Orleans

New Orleans / Feb / Mardi Gras :beer:

[MACHDOUG]

Stop it guys, that hurts..3 knee surgeries and 2 in my back..and still playing soccer.
takes 4 days for the pain to go away, I never learn, I should quit.

[MACHDOUG]

Nor Cal? ok with me, have not been there since the 70's.

[C.W.]

when did the mach-1 convention become a m*a*s*h unit? broke a rib once changing the #1 sparkplug on my bronco (no step :thud: ). thought i buckled the fender when i heard the pop and felt it cave in under me. was glad the fender was fine and got the plugs changed, but the pain kind of kreeps up on ya as the day goes on. FYI broken rib + laughing = ouchie = more laughing and more pain. a painful cycle, but it gets the whole job sight going. :o
c.w.

i like the atlanta idea, but don't think i can help with the planning much other than a caravan or somthing... ... ... on second thought who would caravan with i guy that starts his trip at midnight? :spinem: if ya fall behind your left behind :hehe:

[04Retro]

Tach--got your cell #...I'll try calling you Friday afternoon. Working late (bad news re:ill co-worker) - I just learned I have to cover a trial next week so time for fun and games on the computer limited right now.

DAvid

[shaker3]

New Orleans / Feb / Mardi Gras :beer:
trust me ,New Orleans during Mardi Gras sucks!!! traffic is a P I A in or around the quarter,no place to park and more important..NO Clean Toilets!!!! and if ya whizz in public we will arrest you!! :thumbs: :beer:

[tach9]

Tach--got your cell #...I'll try calling you Friday afternoon. Working late (bad news re:ill co-worker) - I just learned I have to cover a trial next week so time for fun and games on the computer limited right now.

DAvid

Hey David, Kewl..just buzz me when you get a chance!!!

[tach9]

trust me ,New Orleans during Mardi Gras sucks!!! traffic is a P I A in or around the quarter,no place to park and more important..NO Clean Toilets!!!! and if ya whizz in public we will arrest you!! :thumbs: :beer:

Yeah no way am I going to be carrying around a large purple "parachute" to hold my inner liquids in...LOL..!!!!

[shaker3]

Yeah no way am I going to be carrying around a large purple "parachute" to hold my inner liquids in...LOL..!!!!

lol..What no sense of adventure Tach?.. :beer: I can get the "parachute" in 2 other colors so you can have the OFFICIAL colors of Mardi Gras..purple,green and gold or you can borrow Steve's yeller one and ya just need the green one.

[MIB]

Yeah no way am I going to be carrying around a large purple "parachute" to hold my inner liquids in...LOL..!!!!

YUK. That is just so wrong :eek:

[carmickle]

Hell is tibial, fibula and femur hyperextened plateau fractures, calcaneous fracture, complete knee fracture with no bone fragments bigger than 1/4 inch...lots of bone grafts..and plenty of titanium plates and screws....now that is hell. 12 months of morphine daily, Physical Therapy 5 times a week, cortisone/xylocaine injections every other day,...oh and did I mention 20 months and counting with only 126 degrees of flexion. Yeah...I'm still recovering... It hasn't be a very good two years ....but I'm a fighter it's going to take more than that to get me down ...


...Stop your whinning!!!!!
Just kidding, what did you do?????

[stevessaddlegrl]

well...i'd say hell would be going through child birth....once i do i'll tell you all how it goes...but you're gonna have to wait about 4-6 years...hehehe....

[rsnider]

Imagine being on your knees with your right leg sticking out 90 deg straight to the side. That's what I remember seeing just before I passed out. I came to lying on my back starring at the blue sky. Apparently when they rolled me over my leg pulled back straight. Severed acl and lots of broken cartilage.

All this when I was 40 years old. It took me a year to recover from surgery and now that is my GOOD knee!

The Point to this... I LOVE MY MACH 1 AUTOMATIC!!!

[C.W.]

might be me, but i think we went off topic? :o
c.w.

[MIB]

might be me, but i think we went off topic? :o
c.w.
And yet another successful hijack.. :lmao:

[351c.i.d]

no kidding

[stevessaddlegrl]

hehehehe...wait...what was this thread again? for real man...i forgot and had to scroll up....

[MIB]

hehehehe...wait...what was this thread again? for real man...i forgot and had to scroll up....
I'm sure it was the my injury is worse than your injury thread..That's not right??? :thud:

[C.W.]

why do i feel cali (so... east coast) is the spot for the next round up. in the event i can get that far west, i think there should be a shop were i... we... can get some maintenace done or do our selfs. oil change, check breaks, cooling systm, and any thing else one may want to check before taking on a lewis and clark expedition.
c.w.

[MM]

well where every it is, the people that have to drive far should me some where and a have a rally drive there :)

[C.W.]

L.I. to sacromento about one oil change (3000 miles) thats about 45-50 hrs in a car... i may have to stop for a night :D .
c-dub

[351c.i.d]

CW if we have it here in NorCal, you'll have a shop to come to for an oil change and inspection... :hehe:

[MM]

blah northcal long drive. but i would love to see the country up there. and pick a few things, i mean take pictures of....... trees..... in stuff.. yeah thats right... trees

[C.W.]

CW if we have it here in NorCal, you'll have a shop to come to for an oil change and inspection... :hehe:

north cali (still east coast)... napa vally? wine tasting? merlot for me and racing-11 for morgana. :thumbs:
c.w.

[shaker3]

CW if we have it here in NorCal, you'll have a shop to come to for an oil change and inspection... :hehe:
why do I feel another 30 hr drive approaching..guess I'll have to Bambi for more parts... :bna

[351c.i.d]

:hehe:

[dbsample]

My vote goes for Northern California :shft

[Berzerk]

Damn Tach, you are a beast! What did u do? Is that what happens when you drive to fast?.......lol Glad you're better, always gotta out do everyone......kidding, I'm sure driving fast and shifting a lot is therapy of its own!

Cali is a long haul for a few of us, no compromise?

[tach9]

Hey Guys, I was helping a person in distress...fell off a 15ft fence...ya know what they say...no good deed goes unpunished :D

[Berzerk]

Ah, I see, I was thinking fell off a bulding or down multiple flights of steps. That will teach you to help others.......

[MM]

lol bad tach bad.... by the way that is a huge fence

[stevessaddlegrl]

so a quick note before i go to work: i really like the idea of having it in norcal simply because it will mean everything will work that much smoother for us and everyone in attendance. this way, we will be able to calculate costs, negotiate on some of them, and get back to you all a lot quicker.

and about the oil changes/inspections can easily be done by a few artiodactyla. i'm sure with the ideas we have here will meet everyone's approval.

i can't wait for the next convention...i'm just hoping i can be there.....

[martysmachone]

I don't know about all the other walking wounded here but my bulging disc between L-4 & L-5 didn't bother me at all during the drive (3800 miles round trip). The seats in the Mach are very comfortable for long distance, with all the adjustments including lumbar support and cruise control it is easy to shift position once in a while. I did all the driving myself by the way, S.O. doesn't drive a stick and doesn't want to learn on the Mach :shft heh, heh.
Hey I'm gonna lobby for having it here north of the border. Reason being your dollars go a lot further here than mine do down there eh! Regardless of where it is in '05 and beyond, as long as I can get in the car and drive I'll be there. Just might have to take a little more time off work ;)

[farmboy]

I really do not care where the Convention is held, I am going to do all I can next year to be able to attend.

Please set a date as soon as possible. It will not be long till 2005 is here and those that will have a long drive will need to schedule vacation and start saving the money. I for one need to know the date as soon as possible so no one else picks the days and I am stuck again!!

Hey Steve and Aaron, if it is going to be held in the bay area, those of us that live in Gods land ( the South ) will definately need an oil change when we get there and one after the track day and before we head home. We need Royal Purple motor oil and ATF Super Blue. Then probably a good tune. Oh and the most important ( A place to wash and wax the Mach ) !!!

[tach9]

I really do not care where the Convention is held, I am going to do all I can next year to be able to attend.

Please set a date as soon as possible. It will not be long till 2005 is here and those that will have a long drive will need to schedule vacation and start saving the money. I for one need to know the date as soon as possible so no one else picks the days and I am stuck again!!

Hey Steve and Aaron, if it is going to be held in the bay area, those of us that live in Gods land ( the South ) will definately need an oil change when we get there and one after the track day and before we head home. We need Royal Purple motor oil and ATF Super Blue. Then probably a good tune. Oh and the most important ( A place to wash and wax the Mach ) !!!


Hey Farmboy...No worries...I am ready to announce where the 2nd Annual mach 1 Roundup will be held.... :D Just a couple small details to work out...and I'll let all know very soon....very soon so y'all can start planning...

As for Oil & Filter Changes..you bet...I think Steve mentioned y'all all have a place for that ..."The Black Sheep Mustang Performance Shop".... We'll have Royal Purple on tap :)

Here's the list of activities:

1.> The Loop Cruise
2.> Dyno Day
3.> In Door Kart Racing
4.> Drag Racing
5.> Night on the town...(more details later)
6.> Road Racing Event
7.> Scenic Cruise...(more details later)
8.> Show & Shine
9.> AND SO MUCH MORE ..... :hehe:

Raffle Prizes, T-Shirts, Welcome Dinner, Performance Seminars, Detailing Seminar...Oh man the list goes on and on................I can't wait!!! Can y'all????

[C.W.]

just hope the collage crowd can make it. i'll need a co-pilot :hehe:
c.w.

[martysmachone]

Hey Aaron, you gotta include a trip to Patterson on route 130 in the activities! :shft Hardly more than 30 feet of straight line anywhere on that road. Sure had a blast :D driving it while Heather hung on and enjoyed the view :eek: ! I think I may hve scared the :turd2: out of her once or twice :hehe: . Nice view from the top too on a clear day.

[rsnider]

Will there be somewhere or someone to check in with if we arrive earlier in the week? I'll probably take the entire week before (or after) off and check out the tourist spots.

[tach9]

Hey Aaron, you gotta include a trip to Patterson on route 130 in the activities! :shft Hardly more than 30 feet of straight line anywhere on that road. Sure had a blast :D driving it while Heather hung on and enjoyed the view :eek: ! I think I may hve scared the :turd2: out of her once or twice :hehe: . Nice view from the top too on a clear day.

Hey marty...Wow...didn't know you went up Mount Hamilton Road...then down the backside to mines Road and out...ya see i know exactly where you were :D Yes it is a really twisty road, narrow, but once you get to the top, the view is of the entire valley!! Glad you discovered it...that is my back yard!!!

Wait till you get an opportunity to do the 'Loop"..... :hehe:

[tach9]

Will there be somewhere or someone to check in with if we arrive earlier in the week? I'll probably take the entire week before (or after) off and check out the tourist spots.

Hey Rick,

Yup....I now know the exact time when the convention will be held....know the place and the activities...just am firming up a couple of things before I announce it. i have taken a lot of good suggestions for a "longer" convention...so it will be twice as long as teh First One!!! yup, you can check in early no problems...Hang tight...should be able to announce many more details etc...soon!!!! :D

[rsnider]

Hey Rick,

Yup....I now know the exact time when the convention will be held....know the place and the activities...just am firming up a couple of things before I announce it. i have taken a lot of good suggestions for a "longer" convention...so it will be twice as long as teh First One!!! yup, you can check in early no problems...Hang tight...should be able to announce many more details etc...soon!!!! :D
Hey Tach...
Seen the UPS guy today?

[tach9]

Hey Tach...
Seen the UPS guy today?


Not yet....hope it's soon :D Thanks!!!

[MIB]

Hang tight...should be able to announce many more details etc...soon!!!! :D[/QUOTE]

Come on..just a few details???? Like what month???? Pleeeze :D :D
Do I need to start packin? (and I don't mean firearms) :spinem:

[tach9]

Hang tight...should be able to announce many more details etc...soon!!!! :D

Come on..just a few details???? Like what month???? Pleeeze :D :D
Do I need to start packin? (and I don't mean firearms) :spinem:[/QUOTE]





MIB...ROFLMAO!!!!! Yup start packing :D Soon....very soon.....I'm not saying anthing till the last detail is done, and that should be real soon :hehe:

[shaker3]

Come on..just a few details???? Like what month???? Pleeeze :D :D
Do I need to start packin? (and I don't mean firearms) :spinem:





MIB...ROFLMAO!!!!! Yup start packing :D Soon....very soon.....I'm not saying anthing till the last detail is done, and that should be real soon :hehe:[/QUOTE]
ahhhhhh a little bit more info would be nice so that atleast I can put a date on my leave request..the Capt gets a little testy if I hand him a blank leave request and ask him to sign it. Ohhh I need a place too so when I book my rental Yugo I can have it waiting for me when I fly in :beer:

[MIB]

. Ohhh I need a place too so when I book my rental Yugo I can have it waiting for me when I fly in :beer:[/QUOTE]

WOW! Can't wait to see the Yugo on the Loop.... :thumbs:

[shaker3]

. Ohhh I need a place too so when I book my rental Yugo I can have it waiting for me when I fly in :beer:

WOW! Can't wait to see the Yugo on the Loop.... :thumbs:[/QUOTE]
it'll be towing a Daewoo as a spare for when it breaks down :thumbs:

[MM]

rofl! thats great. i hope it isn't soon beacause i have no money i was thinking this could happen inlike the spring

[tach9]

Oh..."hint....hint"....it is in the Summer :D

[MM]

thank god, i would be pi*sed if i had to miss another one

[ImShakn]

Soon....very soon.....I'm not saying anthing till the last detail is done, and that should be real soon :hehe:
Get that last detail done soon...I don't know how much longer I can hold up the vacation roster for next year :hehe: Summer vacations go real quick around here.

[stevessaddlegrl]

it'll be towing a Daewoo as a spare for when it breaks down :thumbs:


hehehe...oh come on. the daewoo is still kinda kickin'. sure i get a lot of recall notices and my front windshield is cracked and my rear right window is broken....but it's an awesome car to get from point a to point b. maybe it can be a tow car for when your machs break down from the long haul/road course/"scenic" driving (cause your eyes will be too glued on the road to look at the scenery--just remember line of sight and to look around the corners or you might end up in some trees). :D

[shaker3]

trees?..we don't need no stinking trees!!! ya don't watch where ya going down here ya wind up in the swamp or hit a gator crossing the road although they're going into hibernation right now so I all got to watch for is them dam armadillo's..fresh road kill stew..yum !! :thumbs:

[MM]

armadillo's? wow those things must do some damage

[shaker3]

actually they're more of a pest than anything else. One of their defense mechanism's is to jump up..well when they cross a road and get "scared" by a car..they jump up and they are at bumper height and you guessed..splatttttt!!!!!!! But as long as they fresh you don't have to soak'em to get the tire tracks off of them to make armadillo sauce piquant. :beer:

[MM]

lol correct me if i'm wrong but but the have like a hard shell?

[shaker3]

you are correct,but its nothing a car bumper can't punch through..

[stevessaddlegrl]

actually when i lived in oklahoma, they were always splattered on the roads. hm...i'm hungry...

[MM]

lol. i was think they were harder than that though

[shaker3]

not really,just gets kind of messy when you try to get the body parts out of your grill then afterwards you can use them as hors d'oeuvres. :thud:

[FMX1]

Armidillo? Is that another white meat? Maybe I should ask if it is a new kind of health food? You all in the south eat soom wacky foods.
Armidillo a la mode anyone? umm umm! :D

[shaker3]

next time you're down here stop at the zoo. Outside the encloseure you'll see 3 cards..1 is the scitntific name,1 is the common name and the last one is a receipe on how to cook it. :beer:

[MM]

hahahaha "scitntific" that great.

[MIB]

Armidillo? Is that another white meat? Maybe I should ask if it is a new kind of health food? You all in the south eat soom wacky foods.
Armidillo a la mode anyone? umm umm! :D

I believe ya mean to say "ya'll". Unless you mean all of us, then it's "all ya'll"
Please use our language proper. Thanks. :D

[MM]

lol, don't insult the ppl that speak with a twang... jesss. :D

[MIB]

lol, don't insult the ppl that speak with a twang... jesss. :D
did ya happen to notice where I live?????? I'm learnen' em, not insultin' em... :bna

[MM]

chill nasty nate, this is my b*tch now. i was just joking around

[351c.i.d]

ok there squirrel master..

[shaker3]

squirrel's?..thats Alabama so many of them and so few receipes

[C.W.]

wow, broken bones to road kill eats... ... ... tach better anounce a place soon, who knows what this thred will jump to next :lmao: .
c.w.

[MM]

lol

[shaker3]

sounds like to me they go hand in hand..road kill stew ain't bad as long as its fresh ..them day old critters are too much work,meats a bit stringy :beer:

[C.W.]

:thud:
:thud: :thud:
:D

[FMX1]

Awh, for crying out loud! :thud: "y'all" Is there a difference between armadillo and squirrel if its been run over by a couple of eighteen wheelers, ten automobiles and a few pickup trucks. Seems to me they'd all taste about the same after that tenderizing.... eeak! :hehe:

[Hawk]

Yeah, that grease/gear oil/fuel/rubber chunk marinade can mask most of the subtleties of the flavor of the meat...

[FMX1]

:lmao:

[Berzerk]

just hope the collage crowd can make it. i'll need a co-pilot :hehe:
c.w.
Hey C.W., if you go and I can go, we should prob. meat somewhere, I'm down in PA, your in Long Island, we could easily meat somewhere close and then cruise on out to the West Coast. :shft
I don't know if I can go, but if so let me know what you think, just seeing if this floats.

[MM]

i will meet you guys along they way if its possible

[C.W.]

Hey C.W., if you go and I can go, we should prob. meat somewhere, I'm down in PA, your in Long Island, we could easily meat somewhere close and then cruise on out to the West Coast. :shft
I don't know if I can go, but if so let me know what you think, just seeing if this floats.

its still a long way away and I suffer from commitment issues :o ( though I should be committed), but a convoy sounds good... ... ... if I can get there I think I'll try to do it in under 50hrs, stopping at the 24-30 hr mark, with a little luck I may depart from VA.
c.w.

[MM]

h*ll yeah lets get a convoy going. shotgun behind the person who knows where the h*ll there going :D you don't want me infront. but it would be cool to be on the world coolest police cases with a convoy :D

[C.W.]

h*ll yeah lets get a convoy going. shotgun behind the person who knows where the h*ll there going :D you don't want me infront. but it would be cool to be on the world coolest police cases with a convoy :D


"hey ya rubber duck, ya got ya ears on"... ... ..."looks like we gat are selfs a convoy" :thumbs: now if we only had a destination :thud:

"were hammer down, loaded up and trucking. were gonna do what they say can't be done"

i love all those old trucker movies :D
c-dub

[MM]

lol well for now we can just cruise around till i get a destination

[MM]

since we where on the topic of road kill. why hasn't any1 noticed my avatar